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Simple Installer

   0.7  

KDE System Tool

Score 77%
Simple Installer
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Link:  http://
Downloads:  6074
Submitted:  May 25 2004
Updated:  Aug 7 2004

Description:

Simple Installer started really simple, then got more features. To some it looks imposing, but it is still easy to use. It's both more and less geeky all at once.Note that the archive now includes both the old version and a new one that requires Kommander 1.0 RC1. If you have the latest Kommander installed the new version is a very slick install, but that's still a work in progress too. See changelog for what's new.

Look for a new release very shortly that enables internationalization!

This is a Kommander application. Kommander ships with Quanta Plus. This should work with versions 3.1 or greater and all features should be enabled with 3.2 or greater. If there are problems let me know. As a Kommander dialog you can also edit this file for your purposes. Kommander uses kmdr-executor to run and kmdr-editor to visually edit files.

This dialog was designed to make installing from source point and click easy.As I've noted, you may want to alter it for your purposes.




Changelog:

Version 0.7
This version has some nice enhancements. There is a statusbar now. Also the settings on start up and configuration are much faster with new Kommander features. There is also a new source tree display. Double click a file to view it.
Version 0.6
Only inserts unique items into history now, adds comment line in history for the program and information in settings about mode when changed. Thee was also a complete layout clean up so things have more space and the dialog resizes correctly now. There is also a new install wizard for installing Simple Installer and it is packaged in a self extracting archive.
Note: this install changes to a more consistent default naming which will mean settings are lost. Edit $KDEHOME/share/config/kommanderrc and look for /share/apps/kmdr/si_installer/main.kmdr] change it to /share/apps/kmdr-si_installer/main.kmdr]
Version 0.5
All new stuff! New project set up with installer and with multiple dialogs. New Logging install that doesn't make you watch the console, saves everything in case you need it and pops up a dialog when it's done. New error dialog for failures. New configuration dialog and settings. New settings reporting buttons. Directly save directory. (I should have skipped a few version numbers) ;-)
Version 0.4
Fixed an embarassing bug, configure options were not being added to the command. Now it also saves your configure string and retrieves it when you go to that directory. This will help you build consistently. Note that the enable debug check box does not yet remember it's setting. There are also new message boxes for errors and some code clean up. I have also gone to separate windows for configure and make because some systems were ending after the configure.
Version 0.3a
Added a button to save the current path to history without making the program. Also I fixed a bug in the history function so it works correctly now. Finally, Ral Moratalla sent me a Spanish translation so I applied the fixes to it and included it in the tarball. It's still quite small.
Version 0.3
When a source directory is chosen a listbox now shows the README and INSTALL files if they are present. A button allows you to view them. There is also a new tab where you can gather system information. This is useful in case you encounter a problem and need to report this back to a developer.
Version 0.2
installer2.kmdr now has a history tab that stores all the directories you run a make in. Selecting it sets that directory and takes you to the build tab. This requires Kommander 1.0 Alpha 2. If you are running an old Kommander use installer.kmdr instead.




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 add this :)

 
 by parentaladvisory on: May 25 2004
 
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this would be even more useful if it could keep track off the files installed by it, so it becomes as easy to uninstall compiled software as installing, if the autor didnt make a make uninstall target ..


//daniel
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 Re: add this :)

 
 by sequitur on: May 25 2004
 
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I just thought of this and was going to do it. The problem is that a lot of the better features of Kommander are new and I don't remember what version or Quanta some shipped with. We're addressing this for a Kommander release we plan to do next month. In the mean time I'm sure everything I'm using will work if you have Quanta 3.2.2 or 3.3 BE2 installed. I think the new features will work with Quanta 3.2. I'll post the update shortly and I'll know with the feedback. ;-)

The Kommander release coming up will really begin to make for more and better Kommander programs.


Eric Laffoon
kdewebdev project lead (Quanta/Kommander)

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 Re: add this :)

 
 by sequitur on: May 26 2004
 
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I just found out that the support for the features I need was only released in kdewebdev 3.3 BE2. So we will shortly release a snapshot of Kommander and of just the executor. We plan on a major release soon, but I think we need an interim release now.


Eric Laffoon
kdewebdev project lead (Quanta/Kommander)

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 hmmm

 
 by Superstoned on: May 25 2004
 
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nice app... but if your still on it, maybe extend it to let it easilly create rpm's and deb's ;-)

I'm waitin' for such an app for years...


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 Re: hmmm

 
 by sequitur on: May 25 2004
 
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> nice app... but if your still on it, maybe extend it to let it easilly create rpm's and deb's ;-)

I've seen apps that are supposed to make creating RPMs easy. The thing is... I have Debian on my server but I don't administer it. I use Gentoo and Michal and I will be creating apps for ebuilds. As you might guess that means I think RPMs are eevil. ;-)

The good news though is that you can subscribe to the Kommander user list at http://mail.kdewebdev.org/mailman/listinfo/kommander and get help developing the dialog. If you look at this one there is a little bit of bash in it but it's mostly point and click. Kommander is not quite to end user simplicity to use but we're working on it.

In the mean time grab what you like out of Kommander dialogs. I should tip my hat to the Emerge Tool here that gave me the idea to use his approach to calling the konsole. This dialog demonstrates a few little tricks we came up with to pass multiple args to konsole.Kommander always seems to be about making software do what was never really intended. ;-)


Eric Laffoon
kdewebdev project lead (Quanta/Kommander)

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 looks great...

 
 by Ekardnam on: May 25 2004
 
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I haven't tried yet, but I think i prefer
using the konsole. But it is a great app,
great for newbies and lazy (well, I'm a
newbie and VERY lazy, but... whatever!) ;)

kepp up with good work!


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 Re: looks great...

 
 by sequitur on: May 26 2004
 
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It does use the console. ;-) It launches consoles pre-configured with environment variables and with the correct strings. It also launches kdesu to get you root console.

I use the console, though I did like an app that managed this some time back. I made this because my wife can never remember how to compile.


Eric Laffoon
kdewebdev project lead

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 incorporating packs

 
 by fuzz on: Jun 1 2004
 
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Maybe you could incorporate checkinstall to create tgz, rpm, and deb packages.

http://proyectos.glo.org.mx/checkinstall


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 Re: incorporating packs

 
 by sequitur on: Jun 2 2004
 
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I'm currently working on a Portage installer and an ebuild creator as I run Gentoo. There are three things to consider here...

  1. I don't have an itch there

  2. The name "Simple Installer" says the mission of the tool... simple install from source

  3. This is a Kommander application so you can extend it


I keep explaining Kommander but it seems like the convenience of being able to create an application like I did here with a few lines of shell scripting is inconvenient because then you have to do something. ;-)

Open this application up in the Kommander editor and look inside. Feel free to fork it for your purposes. It's GPL'd and it's incredibly easy to modify. Kommander is being designed to put application design into the hands of end users. No doubt some well see this as an "unfair lowering of the bar" for the age old "where's your patch?" question. Instead of saying "I don't know how to program" soon it will have be "I don't know how to point and click". ;-)

Have some fun! You won't believe how easy it is to make an application like this with Kommander. Version 0.4 has a sum total of 80 lines of code, many of which are "else", "then", "fi" and "@widgetText". Version 0.1 had less than 40 lines of code. Kommander requires less code than any tool ever. Really simple dialogs can be built with no code at all.


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 Brilliant

 
 by ZennouRyuu on: Jun 2 2004
 
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Simply Brilliant!!! I wish someone would have thought of this when I was a noob. Then again, I guess it's better that I was made to learn the hard way so that I can really appreciate somthing like this.


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 Re: Brilliant

 
 by sequitur on: Jun 8 2004
 
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Thank you. That's very kind of you. I'm working on version 0.5 that is even more improved. I came up with the idea of this because my wife can never find her notes on installing. I'm actually a little surprised by how well this has been received.


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 need help

 
 by Stornado on: Jun 10 2004
 
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hi
I tried to install the simple installer under Mandrake 10.0 Official

The problem I got is that I need the Kommander wich is stored on CD 4 of this distrubution.

I don't have this CD
and I don't want to pay for it.

So I think it's neccessary to download it elsewhere

can anybody give me the link to it, please?


Gruß Stornado
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 Re: need help

 
 by sequitur on: Jun 10 2004
 
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If you have Quanta you will have Kommander... unless your RPM is badly hacked up. However not having the Kommander executor means some things won't work in Quanta, like the quick start dialog. So just get Quanta.


Eric Laffoon
kdewebdev (Quanta/Kommander) project lead

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