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Kommander

   1.5.3  

KDE Development Environment

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Minimum required   KDE 3.4.x
Downloads:  37843
Submitted:  May 26 2004
Updated:  Nov 3 2009

Description:

Kommander 1.5 is the final special release in the 3x series. I resume work on the KDE4 version the last week of October. As to why this is still KDE3 vs KDE4 I was basically doing my apprenticeship in C++ and I needed fully functional design and plugins. I have 3 internal applications built with Kommander totaling 96 files and over 41,000 lines of actual script. I am very much intent on a vastly enhanced KDE4 version and porting this. I'm also planning on getting a KDE4 version of Quanta which can use parts built with Kommander.

This release is all about the little things I wanted, like being able to create a text report with links I could click to run scripts. This has the much requested menu button, There is extensive enhancement to widgets with special attention on Tree/Detail widgets and Tables. Widgets now can give geometry for use with popping up widgets and positioning them. There is also control of background color, for that special attention getter.

The applications I have written are used with databases 6 hours or more a day every week. The last new feature added here is 2 dimensional arrays. I have also included docs with this release. There is some out of date information but the new parser section is completely up to date.

Kommander consists of an editor and a program executor. It uses the *.ui files generated by Qt Designer and used by KDE and extends the simple preview to a full on interactive window using DCOP to communicate with widgets. Kommander is intended for non programmers and programmers alike as a rapid development tool aimed at the 80/20 rule. It doesn't do everything, but it does what you mostly need real fast. Kommander Plugins are easy to create and we have a lot of them. Please have a look as they are easy to install and offer great benefits.

* database access http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kommander+Database+Plugin+(1.3)?content=75805
* date/time functions http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Date+Time+Functions?content=77727
* a time widget http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kommander+TimeWidget?content=77724
* The Action proxy enables control of MainWindow programs as if they were native Kommander http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kommander+Action+Proxy?content=77994
* open with dialog http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kommander+OpenWithDlg?content=77745
* KPart loader http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kommander+KPart+Loader+plugin?content=75807
* HTML part http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kommander+KHTML+plugin?content=75810
* HTTP tool - talk with web sites like you were an HTML data form http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kommander+HTTPform+plugin?content=75808

The new parser is the default so you have variables and unlimited nested conditional statments. Some plugins require the new parser but you can run a mix of old and new by using #!kommander in new scripts in an old parser dialog. You can also use a shebang like #!/usr/bin/php to use other languages in a script widget. This also adds testing for the exec bit to prevent accidental execution of downloaded dialogs. There are now extensive help docs with the editor.




Changelog:

1.5.3 fixed matrix_rowToArray using column headers and added sequential find with matrix_findRow
1.5.2 added setTabLabel for TabWidget. I know someone asked here last year, but since I'm in code mode here it is.
1.5.1 fixed array_remove bug
1.5 Everything you always wanted but were afraid to ask for - see our changes at http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/changes.php?releasenum=0
1.3.1 tasty touches for user power - see our changes at http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/changes.php?releasenum=1
1.3-final is a huge improvement over previous versions. See our changes at http://kommander.kdewebdev.org/releases.php?releasenum=2
1.2.9 is a development release from years ago. It is left here just in case you have a KDE 3.2 or 3.3 system that has trouble with newer releases. We strongly advise against getting it unless a new release fails to build on an old system!




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 aKademy & Kommander

 
 by pfeifle on: Jun 6 2004
 
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Are you planning to present Kommander at the KDE Community World Summit in August?

Will the next stable version be out by that time?

Are you planning the same for Quanta?


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 Re: aKademy & Kommander

 
 by sequitur on: Jun 6 2004
 
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Yes, yes and yes!
I sent you an email proposal for Kommander the start of this week. We plan to be ready for a big completion of the major feature enhancements in time for KDE 3.3. I'm happy to go over that with anyone. Also I thought Andras submitted a proposal for Quanta.

We will do whatever we have to in order to correct any oversight.


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 Compile error

 
 by thomasmg on: Jun 14 2004
 
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I just tried to compile Kommander, but unfortunately I got the following error :

Making all in editor
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/kde3/.Desktop/kommander-1.0alpha4/kommander/editor'
cd ../.. && \
/bin/sh /home/kde3/.Desktop/kommander-1.0alpha4/admin/missing --run automake-1.7 --gnu kommander/editor/Makefile
configure.in:43: version mismatch. This is Automake 1.7.6,
configure.in:43: but the definition used by this AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
configure.in:43: comes from Automake 1.7.9. You should recreate
configure.in:43: aclocal.m4 with aclocal and run automake again.
make[3]: *** [Makefile.in] Error 1

Does anybody know what to do ?
I know this is not the fault of Kommander, but rather the fault of autotools. I really HATE them ! They have prevented me from compiling many apps...

Thank you for your help !

Thomas


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 Re: Compile error

 
 by sequitur on: Jun 14 2004
 
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You are the lucky one huh? ;-)

There is a file in there to recreate teh make files and you can correct it. Before you do your configure do this...

make -f Makefile.cvs

This will rebuild your configuration and makefiles. In fact my Simple Installer here (made with Kommander) has that option built in. This should do it. If there is anything residual causing problems then after you could do...

make distclean

But it should not be needed. BTW please note the changelog on this page if you grabbed it within 24 hours of release there is a bug. Fixing it is the 3 lines of code listed, copy and paste.

Enjoy!


Eric Laffoon
kdewebdev (Quanta/Kommander) project lead

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 Re: Re: Compile erro

 
 by thomasmg on: Jun 14 2004
 
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Tanks, I did not know that trick, I thought it was for CVS only.

Compiling right now (I really need a faster PC...).


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 description?

 
 by soulrebel on: Jun 21 2004
 
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the screenshots look very nice.
what i am missing is a real description. this page only contains a changelog....
what is kommander? a substitute qt-designer, a project developement environment, both or something different? a quick introduction for people not familiar with the software would be nice ;)
thank you


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 Re: description?

 
 by sequitur on: Jun 21 2004
 
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We're working on Kommander, the docs and a web site and we really can't do all of them well at the same time. There are docs listed here that you can look at and there was a recent article on the Dot. http://dot.kde.org/1087424515/

To answer your question, I can't do that well in the space allotted and a thumbnail won't give a true picture. A sparse explantion is it is a visual dialog builder derived from Qt Designer and an executor. But that fails to mention that it will do full applications soon, can create mini applications without scripting, can use any scripting language, creates applications that don't need to be compiled but run at compiled speed, uses DCOP for interaction, etc... It is focused at several groups including novice users. In short it is being designed to be the easiest tool you can use for quickly building small applications.

Kommander uses several key concepts and the phrase "A picture is worth a thousand words" comes to mind. To really appreciate it you have to see it in action. We have a nice set of example dialogs to see how it works. If it sounds interesting try it.


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 Still no brushed dec

 
 by deadman66 on: Jul 14 2004
 
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Hello!

After following your suggestions from yesterday (un-installing the old baghira) I still am not able to set the deco (titlebars) to brushed metal look. I have uploaded screenshots from the window decoration dialog:
http://www.hackenberger.at/baghira_deco.png
http://www.hackenberger.at/baghira_option_menu.png
In the Configuration Menu I have activated the Brushed Metal look. Everything except the titlebar is brushed metal.

Any further suggestions about how to get them working?

Regards,
Florian

PS: x11-themes/baghira-0.4
x11-themes/baghira-deco-0.4_pre2-r1
ebuilds from gentoo installed


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 Re: Still no brushed dec

 
 by deadman66 on: Jul 14 2004
 
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Sorry, forget that post. I have chosen the wrong window (wanted to post on kde-look).

Regards,
Florian


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 What's the Differenc

 
 by skidhmor on: Jul 19 2004
 
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What is the difference between this version of Kommander and the one shipped with Quanta+?


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 Re: What's the Differenc

 
 by sequitur on: Jul 20 2004
 
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The one shipped with which version of Quanta+? The way your question is worded I could answer by saying nothing, or everything listed on this page. Unless you are running Quanta from a kdewebdev beta the difference is that you could make a basic dialog before and now you have all kinds of new features. Other than a conceptual proof of concept release all the new development has been since the 3.2 feature freeze. Why not just check it out if you're interested in Kommander?


Eric Laffoon
kdewebdev project lead

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 Re: Re: What's the Differenc

 
 by skidhmor on: Jul 20 2004
 
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Please forgive my ambiguity.
I'm currently using Quanta+ 3.3 BE2 compiled against KDE 3.2.3


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 Re: Re: What's the Differenc

 
 by skidhmor on: Jul 20 2004
 
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I'll give it a try.
Thanks!


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 compiled w/o images

 
 by mirya on: Aug 27 2004
 
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compiled for FreeBSD 5.2.1 /gcc3.3.3/gmake 3.80 in kdewebdev-3.3.0 original source, but after `gmake install` no images for kommander're installed :( the app works, but all the toolbar, menu, etc. icons're blank. Has anyone face the problem? Or if smbd has icons installed properly, may yoy share?


Best regards, Mirya
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 Re: compiled w/o images

 
 by mrudolf on: Sep 2 2004
 
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I remember seeing something like that on non-Linux box and it had something to do with Qt being compiled without support for some external format (PNG?).

For Editor, all pictures should be embeded directly into executable, so it should not be a path problem.

You may try running 'kmdr-editor' from terminal and look for error messages.


Michal Rudolf
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