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kmando human computer interface

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Minimum required   Qt 4.x
Downloads:  3437
Submitted:  Oct 11 2006
Updated:  Jun 29 2009

Description:

A software for camera-projector interaction was developed by Juan Roldan, Ushakiran Soutapalli, Julien Faucher, and Jan Wedekind at the Microsystem & Machine Vision Laboratory (MMVL) at Sheffield Hallam University, UK.

The software makes use of a low cost off-the shelf webcam that is calibrated against a standard projector screen (note that at the moment the new video for linux standard version 2 (V4L2) is not supported yet). The webcam is used to determine the position of physical pointer (e.g. a pen) which is then used to virtually move the X11 pointer. Point-and-click functionality has also been implemented.

The wizard allows you to take a reference picture showing the pointer. You then have to select the region in the image for generating a reference histogram. If you are using a projector, make sure that the desktop has a bright background. Otherwise the pointer will be illuminated differently and it will not be recognized any more.

Donnie Bhayangkara has built a package of mando-1.6 for openSuSE 10.3 which can be downloaded here:
http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=openSUSE%3A10.3&p=1&q=mando

For a video see
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4201589281466176805

Mando now has a new project page at Sourceforge:
http://mando.sourceforge.net/

New releases at: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=220882

Git access: git clone git://mando.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/mando mando

Discussion Forum: http://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=220882




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 build error

 
 by pupil on: Feb 7 2008
 
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opensuse 10.3
libqt4-4.3.3

g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -O6 -DNDEBUG -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/include/QtOpenGL -MT cameraProjectorCalibration.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/cameraProjectorCalibration.Tpo -c -o cameraProjectorCalibration.o cameraProjectorCalibration.cc
cameraProjectorCalibration.cc: In static member function ‘static boost::numeric::ublas::vector<double, boost::numeric::ublas::unbounded_array<double, std::allocator<double> > > CameraProjectorCalibration::findPatternDiffImg(const mimas::image<double>&, const mimas::image<double>&)’:
cameraProjectorCalibration.cc:127: error: no matching function for call to ‘conj(boost::multi_array<std::complex<double>, 2u, std::allocator<std::complex<double> > >)’
image_op.h: In function ‘mimas::image_ref<T>& mimas::image_apply(mimas::image_ref<T>&, const mimas::const_image_ref<T2, T2Ptr>&, const mimas::const_image_ref<T3, T3Ptr>&, F) [with T1 = double, T2 = double, T3 = double, F = mimas::_multi_help2<double, double, double, std::minus<double> >, T2Ptr = double*, T3Ptr = double*]’:
image_op.h:100: instantiated from ‘mimas::image<T1> mimas::image_func(const mimas::const_image_ref<T2, T2Ptr>&, const mimas::const_image_ref<T3, T3Ptr>&, F) [with T1 = double, T2 = double, T3 = double, F = std::minus<double>, T2Ptr = double*, T3Ptr = double*]’
image_op_help.h:22: instantiated from ‘mimas::image<T1> mimas::operator-(const mimas::const_image_ref<T, T1Ptr>&, const mimas::const_image_ref<T, T2Ptr>&) [with T = double, T1Ptr = double*, T2Ptr = double*]’
cameraProjectorCalibration.cc:145: instantiated from here
image_op.h:75: error: no matching function for call to ‘multi_apply(boost::multi_array_ref<double, 2u>&, boost::const_multi_array_ref<double, 2u, const double*>&, boost::const_multi_array_ref<double, 2u, const double*>&, mimas::_multi_help2<double, double, double, std::minus<double> >&)’
make[1]: *** [cameraProjectorCalibration.o] Error 1


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 Re: build error

 
 by wedesoft on: Feb 7 2008
 
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Thanks for the bug-report. It seems that the template implementation of GCC-4.2 does not like our array operations. I had to change the code quite a bit.
Let me know whether the new version works:

http://vision.eng.shu.ac.uk/jan/mando-1.6.tar.bz2


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 Re: Re: build error

 
 by pupil on: Feb 7 2008
 
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wow that was fast response :)

the new version (1.6) can be build without problem. thanks

these are the packages if anyone interested.
http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=openSUSE%3A10.3&p=1&q=mando


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 Re: Re: Re: build er

 
 by wedesoft on: Feb 8 2008
 
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Thanks for your work!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: build er

 
 by pupil on: Feb 9 2008
 
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no problem. just want to gave something back to the community :)

btw last night i put mando on opensuse KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Community repo, thus it's now available for opensuse 10.2 & 10.3. as soon as the OBS team add 10.x to that repo, mando will also have suse 10.x packages

to make live easier, this is the link for those who interested :)
http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL&p=1&q=mando

or if you want to use the 1-click install, below are the links:

for 10.2:
http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/KDE%3AKDE4%3ASTABLE%3ACommunity/openSUSE_10.2/mando.ymp

for 10.3:
http://software.opensuse.org/ymp/KDE%3AKDE4%3ASTABLE%3ACommunity/openSUSE_10.3/mando.ymp


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 Can't compile

 
 by GameMage on: Feb 9 2008
 
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I'm having trouble compiling this on archlinux, during ./configure it stops at "checking for QT... configure: error: Check for Qt4 failed."
I already have "extra/qt 4.3.3-4" synced, am I missing something else?


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 Re: Can't compile

 
 by wedesoft on: Feb 11 2008
 
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You need to install the developer package of Qt as well. Depending on your distribution this will be a package with a name like "qt4-dev", "libqt4-dev", "libqt4-devel", "qt-devel-4.3.0" ...


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 cant build..

 
 by jarizaro on: Feb 17 2008
 
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Hi, i'm trying to compile it in Kubuntu Gutsy.
I installed the packages:
freeglut-dev freeglut3-dev glut-doc libglut3 libglut3-dev
, I see the "glut.h" in /usr/include/GL/glut.h

but when i try to configure, it says:
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checking for OpenGL... yes
checking for GL... no
checking for GLU... no
checking for glut... no
configure: error: Check for OpenGL failed.

I don't know if this is a problem with the configure or i have to install another packages?

Thanks.


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 Re: cant build..

 
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Probably your OpenGL installation is not complete or broken. Try to download and compile a small OpenGL example program. Usually the error-message is conclusive. For example download cube.c (http://www.sgi.com/products/software/opengl/examples/glut/examples/source/cube.c) and try to compile it like this:

gcc -o cube cube.c -lGL -lGLU -lglut


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 Re: Re: cant build..

 
 by jarizaro on: Feb 17 2008
 
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$ gcc -o cube cube.c -lGL -lGLU -lglut

The cube.c compiles ok, without errors, and run ok.

but configure says:
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checking for OpenGL... yes
checking for GL... no
checking for GLU... no
checking for glut... no
configure: error: Check for OpenGL failed.

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 Re: Re: Re: cant bui

 
 by jarizaro on: Feb 18 2008
 
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i want to say, "..but YOUR configure says.."


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 Re: Re: cant build..

 
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Can you make sure that the following packages are installed: libgl1-mesa-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev, freeglut3-dev?

If this does not help, you can look at the file "config.log" after trying to reconfigure. You need to search for "checking for OpenGL". You can also send me the "config.log" (by e-mail) and I can try to figure out what is going wrong.


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 Re: Re: Re: cant build..

 
 by jarizaro on: Feb 18 2008
 
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They were installed.
I checked config.log and saw the error:

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configure:21058: checking for OpenGL
configure:21114: checking for library containing glAccum
configure:21155: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -lSM -lICE -lX11 -lXext $
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXmu
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
....

after install libxmu-dev the problem was solved.

Other problem i have been:
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checking for f2c.h... no
configure: error: Check for Lapack failed.
...

but lapack-dev was installed, I had to install the libf2c2-dev.

at end, compilled successfully :)

Thanks a lot. :)


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 List of cameras

 
 by Pelandritus on: Feb 21 2008
 
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Hi, I'm going to buy a webcam to use it with that software and I can't find the Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 cited in the main web of the project. In computer stores there is no such model actually. I would like to know where is a list of compatible usb webcams with that software or otherwise if you can tell me which is the best compatible webcam i can choose from an actual store list like that http://www.pcbox.com/catalogo/catalogo/default.asp?lan=es&cnt=es&familia=26


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 Re: List of cameras

 
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At the moment I have support for V4L (version 1 only!) and IIDC/DCAM compatible digital firewire cameras. I cannot recommend other cameras without testing, because some cameras are very slow under GNU/Linux, or the resolution or picture quality is insufficient. So far I've tried the Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 (640x480, 60€ last time I checked) and the Unibrain Fire-i camera (640x480, 120€ as far as I know). Maybe you can order the Fire-i from Unibrain (see http://www.unibrain.com/unibrain/where_to_buy/Where_to_Buy.html).
Better get a money back guarantee in case you are not satisfied with the overall system performance.
* http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ (cameras with V4L)
* http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/cameras/ (cameras with IIDC=yes/1.30/1.31)


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 Re: Re: List of came

 
 by Pelandritus on: Feb 22 2008
 
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Thanks for the info but if I search for V4L in the web you said (http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/) doesn't even appears the "Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000" model between the results of the search. (http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=V4L) Nor I can find in stores one of the webcams cited in that search results. Perhaps that wasn't a good search or perhaps there is not much info in that web about V4L compatibility.
Also thanks for the info about ieee1394 cams but as I said I'm looking for a USB webcam because my computer doesn't have ieee1394 interface.

I would like suggest that give good information about compatibility with actual and available hardware should be a priority of your project. Just because software needs, the first of all, hardware to run.


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Thanks for the info but if I search for V4L in the web you said (http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/) doesn't even appears the "Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000" model between the results of the search. (http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/search_res.php?pattern=V4L) Nor I can find in stores one of the webcams cited in that search results. Perhaps that wasn't a good search or perhaps there is not much info in that web about V4L compatibility.
Also thanks for the info about ieee1394 cams but as I said I'm looking for a USB webcam because my computer doesn't have ieee1394 interface.

I would like suggest that give good information about compatibility with actual and available hardware should be a priority of your project. Just because software needs, the first of all, hardware to run.


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The entry for the Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 is here:
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3332
It is always a good idea to check the developer-homepage of the particular Linux driver. The homepage for the pwc-driver is here:
http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/

There is no camera-manufacturer which provides drivers for GNU/Linux. The third-party drivers are developed by many people around the world. Therefore there is no single web-site which I could point out as a good reference. You are asking me to provide information which I really don't have. Sorry ;)

I could recommend the new Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000 because it has a much higher resolution. But the uvc-driver is a V4L2-driver and our application does not have V4L2 support at the moment.


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Thanks for the info and sorry for the two post, it was the post-data playing with the last page button in the browser.

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The entry for the Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 is here:
Yes, yes, i know. That link is in your main project's page at http://vision.eng.shu.ac.uk/mediawiki/index.php/Interactive_Camera-Projector_System

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The homepage for the pwc-driver is here:
You mean that the only high resolution usb webcams that works with your software use this driver?. I'm asking because the last entry in the changelog of that driver is from "Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:40:04 +0200" and there is no new hardware support since then. In that case i think it will be very difficult to find actually a webcam that uses this driver in computer stores.

Otherwise i'm looking for a second hand Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 on sites like ebay and similar but i can't find it on sale in the entire internet.

Finally i think that web is very bad to maintain a conversation. Yo should considerate the possibility of opening a forum with a forum's package like phpBB or something similar. If you don't have access to a server to host it there are lots of sites where you can open a phpBB forum for free, just with a little bit of Advertising (much less than here). This would provide the users of your software a tool to participate, collaborate with developers and between them sharing useful information. And Especially this would provide a way to write about different themes in different threads and not mix and break conversations. If you need it I can help with that.


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>You mean that the only high resolution usb webcams that works with your software use this driver?
No. The software should work with most or all V4L cameras (not all colourspaces are covered). However if I suggest another camera to you without testing I could get a lot of things wrong. Even when I buy a camera myself, I am never 100% sure:
* Linux driver may not work with your kernel
* Linux driver may only support low frame rates
* Some cameras with the same product name have different chipsets requiring different drivers
* The resolution may be to low to recognise the pointer position with sufficient accuracy
* The resolution may be to high for the CPU to handle the pictures in real-time
* The picture quality may be bad
* ...

If I have the time, I will add V4L2 support. The uvc driver [2] for example supports many cameras. Unfortunately the cameras only work at a high frame-rate when transferring MJPEG which is more sophisticated than the colourspace transformations we have to do already.

> This would provide the users of your software a tool to participate, collaborate with developers and between them sharing useful information.
Well, at the moment noone is really working on this project a lot and I was thinking of porting the thing to Ruby at some point anyway (see HornetsEye project[1]).

> If you need it I can help with that.
I appreciate your offer. However my workload already is high and I don't have the time to start maintaining a forum. If I can port kmando to Ruby, I can use the forums at RubyForge and Sourceforge. Also the software will run with V4L2 cameras and it may even run under Microsoft Windows.

[1] http://www.wedesoft.demon.co.uk/hornetseye-api/
[2] http://linux-uvc.berlios.de


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I don't have the time to start maintaining a forum
It takes 5 minutes open a forum in a forums site. I can do it if you need it. Maintenance is the same as here. answer questions. The difference is that write in a phpBB forum is much faster and more comfortable than here. In addition you can maintain different threads of different themes with different information. For example i could start a thread with a question about supported webcams and some other user can write if he used with success some other webcam model.



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Sorry for answering so late. I must have missed your mail in all the spam.
I am hesitant to start a new forum. As I said I am planning to port the whole thing to Ruby/HornetsEye and HornetsEye already has a RubyForge and a SourceForge discussions forum. Juan Roldan may be applying for a Sourceforge project but he didn't have time to do it so far.
I have contributed to Mimas and I am currently working on HornetsEye and in our forums I have *never* received information from users which cameras are working. I only get to hear something if our software or a Linux driver fails ;)
I recommend a Unibrain Fire-I (IIDC/DCAM compatible firewire camera).


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I recommend a Unibrain Fire-I (IIDC/DCAM compatible firewire camera)
Thanks for your recommendation. How can i connect this camera to a laptop without pcmcia and without ieee1394 interface?



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Oops. Didn't know that you don't have a Firewire interface. For USB with V4L1 the Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 is the only camera I know which works with this software. V4L2 cameras are not yet supported by this software.
Currently I am developing V4L2 software with a Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000. However I don't know when I will find the time to integrate MJPEG streaming support *and* port kmando to Ruby. Plenty of work to do here ...


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Didn't know that you don't have a Firewire interface
I told you before but n.p.
I get a quickcam pro 400 on ebay but now i have another problem. When i try to start installation of the package by executing ./configure i have the following error message.
checking for dc1394... no (older than version 1.1?)
checking for old version of dc1394... configure: error: Failed to link with dc1394 library (only version 1.x supported)

I have libdc1394-13 and libdc1394-13-dev installed in version 1.1
Anyway i don't need 1394 support due i don't have ieee1394 interface so i tried to run it in that way:
./configure --disable-dc1394
But i obtain the same error message. ¿Any idea?



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More info from config.log:

configure:20929: checking for dc1394
configure:20954: g++ -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.cpp -ldc1394_control -lraw1394 >&5
In file included from conftest.cpp:22:
/usr/include/libdc1394/dc1394_control.h:1184: error: stray '\177' in program
/usr/include/libdc1394/dc1394_control.h:1184: error: expected ',' or '...' before 'de'

By the way, my distribution is Debian Lenny



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

 
 by wedesoft on: Mar 31 2008
 
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The config.log suggests that the header file of libdc1394 is broken either on your computer only or on the distribution itself. Here is an extract of the affected file around the line of code you indicated. I hope you can fix it.

int
dc1394_set_format7_byte_per_packet(raw1394handle_t handle, nodeid_t node,
unsigned int mode,
unsigned int packet_bytes);

int
dc1394_query_format7_value_setting(raw1394handle_t handle, nodeid_t node,
unsigned int mode,
unsigned int *present,
unsigned int *setting1,
unsigned int *err_flag1,
unsigned int *err_flag2);
int
dc1394_set_format7_value_setting(raw1394handle_t handle, nodeid_t node,
unsigned int mode);


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 by Pelandritus on: Mar 31 2008
 
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Thank you very much. It was solved reinstalling libdc1394-13-dev
Now i have kmando running. By the moment i can't move the cursor over the screen but i think is a matter of calibration. I'll keep trying.



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 Does works with laser pointer

 
 by miguipda on: May 29 2008
 
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Hi,

can somedy tell me if it works/interact with a laser pointer ?

Sincerely thanks,

Miguipda ;-)


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That's awesome :-D


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Oh wait. You are asking whether it works with laser pointer?

I have no laser pointer here. So I don't know whether it will work for sure. Here is a system where it seems to work, but the source code is not available:
http://www.mine-control.com/go.html


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 by vbman11 on: Jun 8 2008
 
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I'm trying to use mando, but when I click configure on the mando window I get a "blank" window with just the controls for the video input but I can't see what my video input is seeing just blank. I tried "reconnect" I chose the correct channel i've looked for my problem everywhere but no one else seems to have the same problem that I have. I have also used Tvtime to see my camera, it works. Please help me.


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