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Lancelot

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Lancelot
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Lancelot
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Minimum required   KDE 4.x
Downloads:  12044
Submitted:  Aug 26 2008
Updated:  Jul 10 2009

Description:

Lancelot is an ALI (application launcher interface) for KDE 4 designed to provide a place from which all your jobs begin. It provides quick access to applications, places, documents, contacts and system information.

It is a part of KDE since 4.2, so you should have it in your distribution's package repository. It should be in kdeplasma-addons package.

PLEASE READ BEFORE COMMENTING:

[size=1]I almost *never* check the comments here[/size]

For questions and comments, use KDE forums or find me (nickname: ivan|***) on #plasma channel on freenode.

For reporting bugs, go to http://bugs.kde.org/

For requesting new features, visit http://forum.kde.org/showthread.php?tid=15049







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 Why no Widget?

 
 by dsms on: Aug 29 2008
 
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The idea of the new plasma-widgets is that it should be very easy to install them.. so widget != application. why is it so difficult to install your widget?
with ubuntu 8.04 i needed 20mins.
so a) please provide packages for the main distros
or b) make it possible to install the widget in KDE 4.1's widget-menu (install new widgets).

thanks.


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 Re: Why no Widget?

 
 by ivancukic on: Aug 30 2008
 
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Well, Lancelot is much more than a widget... It's like saying that Amarok is a widget because it uses Plasma...

Lancelot will be shipped with kdeplasma-addons in KDE 4.2, so every major distribution will have its own packages.


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 Re: Why no Widget?

 
 by Fri13 on: Sep 10 2008
 
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"widget != application"

You are right that Widget is not same as Application. But Plasmoid is similar to Application. Example, the KDE4 menu (aka Kicker) and menu etc, are plasmoids, not Widgets. Widgets are then littlebit like "small applications".


KDE4 is here to konqueror desktops ;-)
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 Lancelot best kickoff

 
 by Sigra on: Aug 30 2008
 
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This kickoff is great. downloaded and installed after reading what you posted.
no errors now since grabing on first day was 43 downloader. install was simple and easy.

to poster above me I might subjest you

A read his page. he done stated he is not making distro packages but will put links on his page. ITS not his responsiblity. Its blessing this developer took initutive instead of point finger and did something great for linux.

B. If you do not know how install this widget which i now have on over 30 systems of different distros. Then ask and learn. But for love god READ.

Best Regards
Sam Robins


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 Re: Lancelot best kickoff

 
 by ivancukic on: Aug 30 2008
 
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Thanks :)

Just a note - Kickoff is a name of SuSE's menu that is now the default one in KDE 4.x. It is not a synonym of application launcher interface (or the more accustomed term /menu/)

Cheerio!


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 Re: Lancelot best kickoff

 
 by dsms on: Aug 30 2008
 
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i didn't wanted to deny the great idea
behind this project. actually i use
lancelot too instead of plasma's default
kickoff.

i just want to clarify that i don't see
the need of using C++ for a kickoff menu.
it undermines everything that plasma is
made for and that is: independence of
distribution and easy installing through
the build-in menu (if plasmoids are
written in a scripting language like
python or ruby and that's what they
should be.)

btw plasmoids have their own section at
kde-look.org though.
( http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=70x77 )


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 Re: Re: Lancelot best kickoff

 
 by ivancukic on: Sep 1 2008
 
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No offence was taken, maybe I just sounded a bit short and short-tempered. (I apologise if this post also sounds like that :) )

1. Lancelot is very hard to classify as a Plasmoid, and that is the reason it is not in the Plasmoids section. It contains a completely separate application based on Plasma (the menu itself) and two applets - Plasmoids (launcher and parts)... I think that it is enough to say that Lancelot is one fifth of Plasma in size (counting source lines 11k vs 55k lines), while most Plasmoids are in one or two short .cpp files.

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> "undermines everything that plasma is"
This is a very strange sentence. (not to mention that it is not coming from an actual Plasma developer, or am I mistaken?)

> "independence of distribution"
Lancelot is "independent of distribution" just like any other part of KDE. It should be able to run wherever Plasma and Kickoff can run.

Lancelot is - like Plasma (both the desktop and the library, and most of the default applets) - written in C++. Do you want to say that the Plasma desktop should also be written in some other language?

"and easy installing through the build-in menu"
I agree that this is a very, very cool feature, but saying that it is "everything that plasma is
made for" is utterly wrong. The fact that you can install scripted Plasmoids in that way is just a side-effect that we had the GHNS2 system built into KDE.

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With that all said, there are numerous technical reasons behind having Lancelot as a C++ application.

First and the most important is the speed.


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 Great Applic

 
 by blucidy on: Aug 31 2008
 
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I really like it,while I was tired of the disuserable of the defaut kde4.1 kickoff


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 Re: Great Applic

 
 by ivancukic on: Sep 1 2008
 
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Thanks :)


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 menu content has gone...

 
 by pilpilon on: Sep 3 2008
 
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I've used Lancelot for some days now, and I'm in love with it.
The problem is, I've returned home yesterday and I've found that Lancelot menu is empty... Don't know what caused it, could be anything with kids at home, but how could I fix it?


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 Re: menu content has gone...

 
 by ivancukic on: Sep 4 2008
 
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You'll have to be much more specific :)


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 Re: Re: menu content has gone.

 
 by pilpilon on: Sep 4 2008
 
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I wish I could.
I've removed .kde4, and now everything is working Ok, apart that Lancelot part have black foreground font color, instead of white as in color scheme,
but that could be color scheme glitch, or some problem with 4.1.0 to 4.1.1 transition in Kubuntu Gutsy.
All in all, lancelot parts + folder views
are huge improvement over regular desktop idiom, really KDE4 in all it might,
so thank you for that:)


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 Re: Re: Re: menu content has gone.

 
 by ivancukic on: Sep 5 2008
 
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Glad you like it :)


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 Question

 
 by downdiagonal on: Sep 5 2008
 
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Is there a way to show the menu without using the plasmoid? I assume there's probably some way to do it with dbus but I can't figure it out. I'm trying to make a launcher for cairo dock. Thanks for writing lancelot.


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 Re: Question

 
 by ivancukic on: Sep 5 2008
 
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Wow, cool. The basic d-bus command is
qdbus org.kde.lancelot /Lancelot show xcoo ycoo

Where the xcoo and ycoo are coordinates where you want to show it.

if you want to play with categories as well, just look at the
app/src/org.kde.lancelot.xml
or
app/src/LancelotApplication.h


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 Re: Re: Question

 
 by downdiagonal on: Sep 5 2008
 
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Thanks for the fast reply. That works perfectly. I had actually come across that xml file earlier. My mistake was in trying to use dbus-send instead of qdbus. The syntax isn't quite the same and it doesn't seem to produce any error output if you're at least in the ballpark. Thanks again!


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 Thanks !

 
 by redkite on: Sep 7 2008
 
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Well, I was waiting this famous Lancelot !
I'm happy to see it working on my laptop ^^

Thanks for this gorgeous Lancelot again ;-)


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