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Join this if you do not like Windows.
In a life without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates?


512 members now! Next stop: 1024!

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~"I don't see why Windows is the most commonly used OS in America. It does not work as well as Linux, it costs a crapton of money, and doesn't even look as good as Linux. People are stupid..." windowssucks 1701

~"Microsoft - the leading provider of security-challenged applications and operating systems." cb2k

~"WIN-dows? more like LOSE-dows, ahh HA HA HA...." Emoeba

~"losedows... haha... purposed by microLOST ^^" Linukcs

~"Windows ... is the plural of window
Ubuntu... is an ancient word for Humanity
So come from windows to go to Ubuntu , it's open a window on our humanity...?
And Come from Ubuntu to go to windows, it is throwing our humanity on a window ^^" Linukcs

~"Microsoft Windows: A collection of 32bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16bit patch to an 8bit O.S. originally coded for a 4bit microprocessor written by a 2bit company who cant stand 1 bit of competition." Jargon File 4.4.7

~"I hate Apple, Apple smells bad when obsolete. I hate Windows, you must close your Windows and stop using it because a lot of virus and pollutions can go inside. I love Linux, because both of them sucks...." farizluqman

~"Computers are like air coolers, they stop working well when you open windows." beastieboy

~"Windows vs penguin. The penguin would win because it will throw the Apple and smash the Windows into little pieces." greyfoxsylux

~"Windows is like a tamagochi, except that... even if you care, it dies." beastieboy

~"If Microsoft Windows can gives us only the blue screen of death, Linux would gives you a colourful screen of death, because Linux is so customizable." farizluqman

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 Yay 256 members!

 
 by greyfoxsylux on: Dec 9 2009
 
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Woo, we have reached a landmark of 256 members!

Windows Haters has evolved into an 8-bit level group (if referring to number of colors). A multiple of 8, which is common in the technological level. Next goal: 512!

If we compared number of members to level of RAM, you can run the Linux LiveCD with the 256MB of RAM, or 256 members!

Let's hit 512 next!


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 Re: Yay 256 members!

 
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yeah, thats right.... 512 and then 1024... but if you collect the total of anti-WindowsOS, its about 16777216 (multiply of 24) if i'm not wrong, it can make a big group of human...

Microsoft is an evil empire since personal computer ever announced. November in 1983, Bill Gates showed a beta version of Windows to IBM's head honchos. Their response was lackluster probably because they were working on their own operating system called Top View. IBM did not give Microsoft the same encouragement for Windows that they gave the other operating system that Microsoft brokered to IBM. In 1981, MS-DOS became the highly successful operating system that came bundled with an IBM computer.

Top View was released in February of 1985 as a DOS-based multitasking program manager without any GUI features. IBM promised that future versions of Top View would have a GUI. (microsoft DOS has no GUI, so it may be hard to users to use it). Then, that promise was never kept, and the program was discontinued barely two years later.

No doubt, Bill Gates realized how profitable a successful GUI for IBM computers would be. He had seen Apple's Lisa computer and later the more successful Macintosh or Mac computer. Both Apple computers came with a stunning graphical user interface. On that day, Bill Gates realized that Apple's Lisa is more powerful, with powerful GUI on that time. User can even play games, Solitaire is the first game included in Macintosh.

Competition:
As a new product, Microsoft Windows faced potential competition from IBM's own Top View, and others. VisiCorp's short-lived VisiOn, released in October 1983, was the official first PC-based GUI. The second was GEM (Graphics Environment Manager), released by Digital Research in early 1985. Both GEM and VisiOn lacked support from the all-important third-party developers. Since, if nobody wanted to write software programs for an operating system, there would be no programs to use, and nobody would want to buy it.

Microsoft finally shipped Windows 1.0 on November 20, 1985, almost two years past the initially promised release date. Also has Graphical user interface. then, in 1990, Windows 3.0 or called WINDOWS FOR WORKSTATION, from that time, MICRSOFT was on the way to become an evil empire.

Then, in 1994, NCSA mosaic announced the first BETA version of Netscape. Microsoft is now feel that they are left behind in the competition. To take part in the competition and take control of the businesses, windows has now launched Windows 95, with Internet Explorer. As we see now, Micrsoft doesn'tlet others take part in the competition.

As Windows NT is announced, the website, the networking systems (both intranet and the internet) and the webservers has all running the Windows NT. The empire is not be long, when Linux with the most powerful Apache Hypertext Transfer Protocol Server now taking about 1/3 the total webservers in this world. There's about 100 Million of webservers using the Linux after Unix.. Servers are better managed using Linux (many thanks to Linus Torvalds) with its reliability to run servers continuously and simultaneously. Now, Microsoft is not alone in his cloud-nine businesses...

Glory to the penguins....

"Microsoft is an evil empire!!!"


Microsoft has no way to take control the technology...
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 Re: Re: Yay 256 members!

 
 by MichaBF on: Dec 11 2009
 
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> if i'm not wrong, it can make a big group of human... <

Yep, please call me too!

For my beginning at computers (with the legendary Sharp MZ 70 B in the first 80's) I'm started with CP/M and CurrentDOS. The first beginning from M$DOS was full of mistakes...
The time after I work with GEM and (later) DRDOS - M$ was struggled for working correctly...
And than: M$, full of stolen and motley buyid, but not really self-developed Software, tried to get world rules.
And I: looking around me, see and love Linux - the better, the functional OS!

Thats the reason, why simply people like me are windows-haters (and save incedentally a lot of good money for bad software).

Best regards from GER (and sorry for my bäd english),
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All people are strangers - nearly at all of the world...
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 Re: Re: Re: Yay 256 members!

 
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Yeah, Microsoft is about to take over the business. MS-DOS is only a bunch of myth and just a stupid outdated 16-bit thing... Microsoft then tests all other dos systems that available on that time, Unix and Sun Microsystems where they are the best GUI on that time (while Microsoft only a stupid DOS), and they bought the $10,000 Apple Lisa computer, all only to stole their languages, scripts, binaries, concept etc... Then, the first beta version of Windows 1.0, is full with stolen technologies from them...

Around 1995, Windows NT is the best networking system, webserver, terminalserver and enterprise server, and the Windows 95 as the clients, Microsoft is in total control of the technology since that. It's evil empire is not last long after newbie "Linux" serves to the world as the best Web server, workstations, etc... Also, arise Linux and Unix (Mac also called Unix) as a biggest competitor to Microsoft... hahaha, you'll not alone Microsoft... And today, we can see, most server using Linux, and CentOS is the largest selection of server os...


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Visit http://losedows.blogspot.com and start hating Microsoft... see you there...


Microsoft is not alone
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 Re: http://losedows.blogspot.com

 
 by Padster on: Dec 15 2009
 
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i'm added.


Resistance is futile.
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 Re: Re: http://losedows.blogspot.com

 
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Even bill gates has switched to Ubuntu, and how about you... everybody loves Ubuntu....

Stop using the M$ products and feel the "FREEDOM"


M$ is comparing their products ,Heres the link http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver/compare/ReportsDetails.mspx?recid=53, seems that their Windows Server 2008 is "BETTER" than RHEL 5. RHEL 5 is more long lasted and you can let it be turned on for a long term. Moreover, RHEL 5 sudo command is more powerful than UAC... Since my server has stop functioning for a long time because of the fuc*ing blue screen of death, while i don't know where it comes from when I was using Windows Server 2003, so I just install RHEL 5 instead of Windows Server, and no such problems comes out and it is up and running until today and my server's system uptime is 19 Days 5 Hours and 32 Minutes...


What a lousy Microsoft Windows

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 Windows must die!

 
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MS is empire of evil.


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 Re: Windows must die!

 
 by greyfoxsylux on: Dec 11 2009
 
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Windows became an evil empire after the development of Microsoft Windows 2000. Win2000 was the best Windows OS until it fell after that. Bill Gates reduced his activity with Microlost around the time of the Windows XP deployment.

Windows 3.1, 95, 98, and 2000 were decent Operating Systems.

-this is not M$ Fanboyism. This is my opinion after comparing the MS OSes.-


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 Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
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Yeah, we should define first what we mean as an operating system, because there is a definition Windows does well and one where it is the worst OS in history.

Windows as an OS does well as a PLATFORM for supporting applications. It can handle virtually any app, and its installer is familiar and -although misinforming- very flexible. And that's about it. The wonderful apps coming with Windows are the ones deserving the credit afterwards.

Linux also excels in this respect: applications are ensured seamless integration, portability, quality ratings, security, modularity, expandability, evolutivity, etc through package management. However, Linux has an innovative distinction in that whatever doesn't work as planned will get run over in time, unlike Microsoft which still boasts its Windows 95 network connection panel even though LAN connections and Hi-speed internet access are top priorities than dial-up (blame it all on not wanting to reinvent the wheel, although it is really not wanting to even revise it...).

Where Windows sucks big time is serving as a hub where Your life, not just your work, is given priority. Linux DE's are focused on reviewing users' interactions with the desktops, and provide enough modularity to recraft your personal working space into your own little "avatar". Windows... well, you can change the wallpaper, get freeware to make the cube and wobbly, and what do you get? A cheap ripoff of Linux platforms, which are product of users' creativity, system modularity, and are at most times a work of art in themselves.

Windows has a Messenger to connect to your social network. Linux has a Social desktop to connect, whether through the messenger or anything you like. Windows has a desktop folder to manage your files: Linux has a Desktop to manage your tastes, and a folder to manage your Work. The end result? Windows is a file Desktop, Linux is a Social Desktop, a Semantic Desktop, A Human Desktop. Ubuntu has the upper hand of any distribution in capturing this unseen, untouched language of Linux in so few words: Linux for Human Beings. And that is Linux in short, an OS for Human Beings.

Windows turns people into objects of their system, which is a black box for applications, which are black boxes for their lives. No wonder people who spend so much time in computers end up with psychological disorders: their lives are jumbled in a bunch of FILES!! Linux opens up human lives and lets them express themselves, whether through tweaking the source code or clicking pretty icons or reading twitter, facebook, etc. or a mixture of all. Linux begins with our most important attribute, humanity, and extends it into a metaphor inside our desktops.

Sorry to sound so metaphysical, but I feel we should just take a moment and admire our OS for what it is, without compares and jigs, then ask ourselves: Why do I use linux? In the end, you will see its just YOU: You are the reason you use Linux. Once we see this, we pity the poor people whose lives are a Windows mess (I've seen people with the messiest desktops of their lives just trying to survive a system that does not adapt to their organizations, it's almost a crying shame...). We must help them become Human, we must help them become Linux.


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And also, windows doesn't support upgrading older windows to a newer version, so, if people buy Windows 2000 that cost $300 with a PC that is only compatible with windows 2000 or below, and they used the hell stupid Windows that is damn slow and damn too old, how would they feel???... There are my friends experiencing it, Tried to install Windows XP to their computer and their computer is running just like a shit... and then I encourage them to install Ubuntu Karmic Koala with KDE 4.1, and they are very happy and satisfied with it.. the system is running very stable, with a brand new look and the VGUI even in the Intel Pentium 3 PC, with 20GB of hard disk space...

One more thing is M$ doesn't give a clear Knowledge Base for the older version of windows, such as Windows 98... but, if you're using Linux, there are about millions openUser were ready to help... even you are using Linux 1.0... there are many sources and Knowledge Bases are ready for you.

Thats because Linux opens a community that let all people to join and help fixing the bugs, together, while Windows has its own IT technicians that is paid to fix their bugs...


Everybody loves Windows, yeah, everybody loves it because of its fresh air, and hell, I love my door also...
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 Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by aeza on: Dec 17 2009
 
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Linux is the best!!!! Everybody can customize Linux, everybody can Use Linux....


ACs are like computers- Both work fine until you open Windows!
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by hleon12 on: Dec 18 2009
 
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For the next Windows, we will need a processor 8-cores xD.

Linux Power!!!


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by centuri0 on: Dec 18 2009
 
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Yeah, and a blu-ray drive for installation!

Oh, actually not: "don't worry", it's already installed on your hard-drive. :D


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by centuri0 on: Dec 18 2009
 
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Yeah, and a blu-ray drive for installation!

Oh, actually not: "don't worry", it's already installed on your hard-drive. :D


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by centuri0 on: Dec 18 2009
 
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Yeah, and a blu-ray drive for installation!

Oh, actually not: "don't worry", it's already installed on your hard-drive. :D


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
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well, the bigger the better... The better the more $$$$$ for sure... but not linux...


Everybody loves Windows, yeah, everybody loves it because of its fresh air, and hell, I love my door also...

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by hleon12 on: Dec 18 2009
 
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lol a blu-ray drive xD



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by neojames11 on: Dec 19 2009
 
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Windows: the 15tb solitaire game which requires HD and blueray to play in 2bit graphics mode.



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by TheRob on: Dec 18 2009
 
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heh. if you haven't noticed, win7 is alot
snappier than vista, plus runs fast on
most modern hw


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by perles on: Dec 18 2009
 
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This is not an achievement but a requirement. Any mediocre OS must run on most modern computers.



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Windows must die!

 
 by cb2k on: Dec 19 2009
 
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I normally Like your posts, but this one was highly disappointing.You said that M$ was good and did not offer any valid reason to substantiate it. Your comments were vague.This was not expected from you.

wHat's happening to you man?


Nah just kiddding :) I cracked it first time and it makes my processor run really high so I sacked it.



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Windows is not compatibility friendly...


Everybody loves Windows, yeah, everybody loves it because of its fresh air, and hell, I love my door also...

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 Re: Windows must die!

 
 by OwlGhost on: Dec 19 2009
 
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So must the M$ minions i.e. Equipment manufacturers, who insist on creating fantastic products then sticking a Window$ (gag) only label on them. Give us the info you'll sell a lot more product.


"Waiting for my real life to begin."
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windowsucks... Fool them, but don't be fooled (I'm using Windows 7 for free)


Everybody loves Windows, yeah, everybody loves it because of its fresh air, and hell, I love my door also...
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So am I, at least for a few more months... and office also...

But it's still doesn't make up for the monopolistic, demonic and incompetence that pervades the M$ enviro.


"Waiting for my real life to begin."
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 Word of the day

 
 by cb2k on: Dec 18 2009
 
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Freetard :)


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 Re: Word of the day

 
 by TheRob on: Dec 21 2009
 
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Good one! :D


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 Glad to find a decent group!

 
 by bendib on: Dec 21 2009
 
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One thing that really makes my blood boil is working on some wintard's PC that takes a year and a half to boot, and a year and a half to launch all the malware and crapware on the thing, looking at 10,000 errors on boot, close one if you have time before another comes up. If the same thing happened to linux, I could hit ctrl-alt-f2 and clean it myself. Even better is the fact this does not occur on linux. I have even seen Vista machines play their login sound backwards or listen to grinding and screeching noises instead. My linux systems have a little blip now and then, but not anywhere near as much as windows systems. I have to deal with different family member's windows PCs, so I know. Linux is not only better because of it's stability, but I often find myself doing tasks in Linux which are just not possible on windows. Glad to be in the group, my name is Ben Dibell, a PROUD linux user, I prefer Red Hat based distros, and I hate Macroturd.


Windows will never let you be bored. You have so many antivirus suits to update, so many wacky errors to fix, and so many reboots to do.
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 Re: Glad to find a decent group!

 
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Try not to express that a lot, because it might impulse Microsoft to actually do something about it. That is THE WORST that could happen to it (I imagine Gates has nightmares of Windows as a stable operating system), because that would mean people don't need their inflated, overhyped and just plain dumb software --not to mention antivirus, service plans, etc.--, which in turn means they had economic losses (they could have gotten more cash out of people, but they gave it up by making their software meet better quality requirements). Their bloatware is needed to stay ahead in the business: that is why they love to prey on the average Joe and Jane, because to them a computer is a black box where their devices come in, and info pops out. Never mind what they do with your information, HOW do they manage it, Which third-parties are sucking on your life, and how much "haggle-money" one is wasting on information whose copy is valued 300x to 600x above their true value...


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I would dance around happily like a daffy retard if M$ fixed windoows because of me.
That would mean less BSODs on retard's PCs for me to solve, which means more time for scripting on linux. Of course, as we all know...
1. Microsoft KNOWS that their OS is as stable as nitroglyerine.

2. They could not give a shit less

3. Even if they did, it is not possible to fix the WinNT base.


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I didn't exactly mean fixing it, I meant more like further restricting hardware markets, anti-Linux propaganda, pressure on governments to further "protect" their assets since it has no other choice, and hunting us down like rats under "piracy" laws... and believe me, they have the money, manpower and lack of morals to do that (they even got Wal-mart by their side, so we gotta be careful, I don't wanna get caught in a legal battle against the King of Retail). I don't know much about the Windows kernel, but I salute you, you got a lot of guts to script for Linux on an operating system with inside cameras reporting everything one does in the computer.

They may not give a shit, but they'll beat us down just for their max-profit whims, and they do give a lot of shit for their pocketbooks and stocks. If we do anything to them at this moment in time, we'll lose Linux and everything open-source, especially since now they have a picturebook to pin us in, Windows 7...


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 by bendib on: Dec 22 2009
 
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They can't. They have 10,001 organizations on their back for antitrust suspicions. Here is my prediction. They will attempt to kill linux, but will fail miserably. The thing will get large media coverage, and people will CONVERT to linux just to get away from M$. Linux is not a baby anymore, and it can defend itself, and has plenty of people who are willing to help. Did you notice on the release of Win7, Linux marketshare went UP? If I am wrong, I will fight all I can for Linux. Microsoft is an evil, and they know it. Hail Linus...


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I have the impression that we are goin' to miss some details.
If Crocosoft is leaved, and if Linux is purchased (freely ) , we will have with time some problems we hadn't to care of before.
- It's a 2x free kernel, and over take place a (2x?) free OS , so we don't care about cracking were OWN OS BUT ill-intentionned people would crack an ALONE computer by inserting Trojans, Spywares etc... so we'll need an antivirus , a better firewall wich means a lower-time OS or an isolated computer or a firewall and antiviruses server(s).
- Ads. Our OS is a minority because we don't make ads. Linux is winning place by Mouth-to-Ear system (in French, we call it the Arabic Telephone). So at the first opportunity, if a commercial OS want to break sugar on our back, they will ! An example : Games. Linux have a lot of games but not really pretty (except someones ).
- Technic support. With an user support, today it's OK, we can solve a lot of problems ^^ And after? Will the user support be efficient and sufficient?

I'm really happy to have Linux today and I hope we will be a(n extended :) ) minority 'cause we're going to don't care a lot of problems.


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I installed ClamAV after reading the malware found on GNOME-Look. You have a good point. Linux needs ads. This has bugged me for a while. We can afford it, so why not? The mac and PC ads have pissed me off since day one, THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO CHOICES!!! And not just three, either. They need people to think there is only two choices, Apple knows if people knew they could install Linux on their current PC and get away from all the headaches, they would do it. And yeah, we could use some tech support for distros like Fedora, but then again those forums are damned useful.


Windows will never let you be bored. You have so many antivirus suits to update, so many wacky errors to fix, and so many reboots to do.

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Number one is bullsh*t. The very structure of the filesystem in a GNU/Linux OS makes it REALLY difficult, if even possible, to write generic viruses for Linux. And viruses, worms, trojans etc. are software you have to install. I don't know of any GNU/Linux distro that has the possibility of completely automated installation, without the user noticing it, like Windows has. You HAVE TO WANT TO install something, and you do it either by compiling it or by package management, either way you have to do it with root privileges, which you don't access too often. No sane Linux user runs her own every-day apps as root, right? Than, even if a genius would succed in programming a generic virus against Ubuntu, it would hardly work on Fedora, or Gentoo...

Massive viruses and similar malware are very unlikely to happen on GNU/Linux, also because of the fact it is free software, so anyone with skill can study the code and fix ANY security hole, which is happening all the time.

And all this is what actually makes GNU/Linux a secure system, not its lack of mainstream popularity. GNU/Linux REALLY IS much more secure than Windows or Mac OS is.

Will the user support be efficient with the grouth in popularity of GNU/Linux? Of course it will!
You are forgetting that FOSS is a community, and also that you don't need to pay any special licenses to get permission to give professional user support and take money for it. With the grouth of the GNU/Linux user base the communitiy is growing, and the professional user support companies are multiplying. Which in fact means, support will be better if Linux becomes more popular.

So, I really hope, not Linux, but free software generally, will cease to be a minority and finally become the usual way of using and developing software.
In the words of Michail Bakunin, either everybody is free, or nobody is free; there is no middle-ways.


Omnia sunt communia.

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 by neojames11 on: Dec 22 2009
 
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Why do I have a image of a penguin beating up a fat guy with a windows logo on his head after I read that statement! :)


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HAHA yeah :) Anti-windows pictures are funny


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HAHA yeah :) Anti-windows pictures are funny


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Here is my favourite example of anti-windows pictures: http://badvista.fsf.org/logos/windows_vista_ready.jpg .. the novell and ibm linux commercials are really well done though. They are both found on youtube.



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Here is my favourite example of anti-windows pictures: http://badvista.fsf.org/logos/windows_vista_ready.jpg .. the novell and ibm linux commercials are really well done though. They are both found on youtube.



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And a week later, he speaks again...

And look, Linux is about as dangerous as piece of cardboard. If they will try to get anyone, it will be Apple. The reason a lot of their competitors violate "patents" is because Macro$hit goes out and patents every stupid little thing they can. They really are under close watch by the government, and so you see, the government is NOT on their side. Quite the opposite. And if you thought I scripted for linux on windoze, no, I script for linux on linux.


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Uh... Not Really. Apple is not a direct competitor because their OS does not compete in the PC market: rather it competes as a Substitute for the PC market, the Macs. Apple is a direct competitor to the Computer industry, and only indirectly to Microsoft (just think about Office for Macs... :) ) Also, Apple does not hold collaborative standards as its foundation is proprietary --even if they have been much nicer to us than the fat guy. So in a sense, it is also competing with Linux, though indirectly too.

Linux, OTOH, is DIRECTLY competing with Microsoft WINDOWS (and MAC OS X) as an OS for PCs and Macs. It can take the place of Microsoft and Mac as the Largest Operating System Community. Mac cannot replace PCs in hardware, and therefore cannot replace Microsoft (it will still run on PCs even if Mac is running). Linux, however, can replace it, and can also replace Mac OS X on Macs (I'm doing it right now lol), so it is a "competitor" (to these blissfully ignorant companies, it is a true competitor, though) in the sense that it competes in the OS market alongside Microsoft.

Even with government intervention, though, today's reality of Microsoft Monopoly will not be changed. Computers nowadays have the circumstances necessary for a natural monopoly: low demand relative to the Minimum Efficient Scale. It means that Microsoft has grown so big it can supply the entire PC demand, and that any firm operating next to it will make virtually 0 profits as there is no more market left to supply to. But that is not the problem: the problem is that Microsoft got there by coercion, not enthronement by the people, and -even if it is efficient- it will not bolster economic development (improvements in the life quality for a given optimal production scale), only growth of the already existing. That is why free and open-source programs are CRUCIAL in ANY market: they operate independent of profit and offer the inelastic part of the demand a product for FREE, yet their development is worth billions of cash. This breaks with everything Microsoft economists have been taught, since all they can think of to make their profits grow is to inflate the price the highest they can and enforce it to the most people they can.

Aye, in the billions of $ FOSS innovations have Microsoft would love to get their hands on, even through dirty dealings (a billion bucks fine is less loss than an 800 billion dollar loss like Debian). That is why we should always watch out for redmond: it does not provide a service, it excludes others. Patents are only the tip of an ominous iceberg Microsoft is plotting.

As for government being on our side, I think the 1998 case against Microsoft including YET ANOTHER MARKET on their sleeve with Internet Explorer covers pretty much this area. The first verdict in November 1999 was that Microsoft was guilty: in June 2000, it was determined that it should split up into an Office company and an OS company, and that they should hire another company for the internet browser. Yet two years later, they reappealed, and under strange circumstances with the Justice Department they got the Web browser in exchange of "some restrictions on its business practices". [Taken from Principles of Economics, 5th ed. by G. N. Mankiw (p. 384)]

So yeah, the government is on our side... when it suits him.


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Then as I have said in previous posts, I will defend linux in any way I can should the need arise. But keep in mind, Apple is taking profits from M$, a lot more than Linux. I wish this could change, however. Anyway, Apple may not be the same kind of competitor, but they are costing M$ money. Long live the penguin.


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 by natewiebe13 on: Dec 28 2009
 
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I can't speak for other areas, but in Ontario, Canada I have noticed that Apple has grown in popularity mainly because of the iPod. After the iPod became popular, people started to buy Macs and using OSX.

The sad part, is that they switch because "no viruses, no BSOD, etc." and Linux has the same benefits that they bring up, except for the price tag. Instead of trying Linux before hand by installing it on their PC's, they go out and buy a Mac.

I think the main factor why people go from Windows to OSX, is because of two things. Either people think Windows and OSX are the only two OS's available, or they know Linux exists, but think it is too difficult for the average user. This CAN be true, but there are distro's available that do not require any type of computer skills to use.

Ubuntu as an example, Since my grandparents made the switch from XP to Ubuntu without a hitch, and they use the computer for more than just web browsing: photo editing, simple video editing, etc.

It would be a good idea for there to be a site that would ask a series of questions as to the expectations of users that want to switch away from Windows and suggest a few distro's for them to try. There should then be ads to promote Linux so people know there is a FREE alternative that is not above their heads.

In my personal experience, I knew that Linux was around, but just thought it was more for the server side. I then did some research and found that Linux was a great alternative to Windows and I gave it a try and now love Linux. If I can be unaware like that, I'm positive that others can make that mistake.

I think everyone should give Linux a chance before switching to Mac (or just switch because Linux is MUCH better), but they need to use a distro that meets their needs and skill level.

Just my two cents.



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 by Padster on: Dec 27 2009
 
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come on guys, we are not in the sidebar for popular groups anymore.


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It's because we have no more things to say, Paddy :D
CROCOSOFT SUCKS!!


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I can't speak for other areas, but in Ontario, Canada I have noticed that Apple has grown in popularity mainly because of the iPod. After the iPod became popular, people started to buy Macs and using OSX.

The sad part, is that they switch because "no viruses, no BSOD, etc." and Linux has the same benefits that they bring up, except for the price tag. Instead of trying Linux before hand by installing it on their PC's, they go out and buy a Mac.

I think the main factor why people go from Windows to OSX, is because of two things. Either people think Windows and OSX are the only two OS's available, or they know Linux exists, but think it is too difficult for the average user. This CAN be true, but there are distro's available that do not require any type of computer skills to use.

Ubuntu as an example, Since my grandparents made the switch from XP to Ubuntu without a hitch, and they use the computer for more than just web browsing: photo editing, simple video editing, etc.

It would be a good idea for there to be a site that would ask a series of questions as to the expectations of users that want to switch away from Windows and suggest a few distro's for them to try. There should then be ads to promote Linux so people know there is a FREE alternative that is not above their heads.

In my personal experience, I knew that Linux was around, but just thought it was more for the server side. I then did some research and found that Linux was a great alternative to Windows and I gave it a try and now love Linux. If I can be unaware like that, I'm positive that others can make that mistake.

I think everyone should give Linux a chance before switching to Mac (or just switch because Linux is MUCH better), but they need to use a distro that meets their needs and skill level.

Just my two cents.


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Windows and Mac are very different at various respects (some of these bifuractions are quite relevant to our position in community collaboration), but their OS's are single-minded towards one thing: maximum profit. I may seem like a ranter on this, but getting this to heart is KEY to learning why FOSS is better (and communicating it!). Microsoft and Apple DO NOT CARE ABOUT TRUE, GROUND-SHAKING INNOVATION; they care about maximum profits. These companies will not implement the very latest and best of desktop technologies to the good of users, they implement the most money-efficient technology that supports their niches' demand. At first this seems nice, but when you see that the purpose of supplying their demand is NOT for human welfare, but for MAXIMUM PROFITS, well.

In this perverted economy, ALL the supposed discounts and aids to people NEVER come from COOPERATION, but from SELFISHNESS. One example: lower bus fares to the elderly. You might think it is a social motivation (it is a social discourse, though), but in reality, it is because the market for elderly people is highly elastic due to their limited budgets. So, to earn the MAXIMUM PROFIT under those circumstances, the price must be lowered to the maximum that demand can support.

Corporate Charities? Another Ruse! They simply give money to people with super-elastic demands so they can overcharge these people in more expensive (and profitable) markets. When governments create them, they become a form of "voluntary taxes", because in reality YOU ARE PAYING THE PROJECT(S) THAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO FUND, IN ADDITION TO YOUR ALREADY EXISTING TAXES. The epilogue of these two examples is: true corporations are never charitable, they just use a socially acceptable discourse to get inside your wallet.

From THAT hell spawns Microsoft and Apple, and even though they may seem collaborative at first, they are just looking for a way to steal our technologies without having to answer US for their constant thefts. When they make an "innovation", they spend as much money on advertising as they can in order to make us think it is not better, but THE BEST (of course, a lot of money is also spent on quieting down the people who recognize and protest against their products' flaws). Then they fund supermarkets to lower their products' price, and generate hype to start a cascading consumption reaction which eventually brings them back 400x to 500x their original investment... from our pockets. But this is the "good system", the "efficient one", the one that gives the "modern augmentation in standards of life": LIES!! They cannot bring a higher standard of life because they have taken people's lives out the model in the first place. Do they measure quality of life? NO! They measure QUANTITY OF LIFE --meaning the amount of product/outlets people can buy.

"Consumers", as we have been blindedly called, are the most important and manipulated tool of this social massacre we call 'market economy'. EVERY SINGLE THING COMPANIES DO IS TO KEEP US SPENDING, because if we keep spending, they keep producing, and if they keep producing, stockholders keep filling their pockets, and if stockholders keep filling their pockets, they can then invest on the government more, which finishes the job by making measures to further enhance our spending habits. But increased spending does not improve the overall well-being of people: rather, it is Optimal spending what guarantees well-being -- to earn exactly what we need to live upon. When we accept Linux, we are making a smart decision towards this optimum, because we are comitting to our community's overall well-being regardless of what our consumer status is.

In my opinion, Linux is what I like to call a "constructive development module". It is an important resource all by itself to open society towards a Sustainable Model Of Development In Optimal Scale, yet it can be a platform to perhaps for once do the right thing at the right time for the world. Corporations have plagued our world, destroyed our beautiful landmarks, and taken every cent out of our pockets just to let us live. It is time to open our eyes and close our minds to their trash.


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I cannot find a single thing wrong with your post. I do, however, want to say that this goes much deeper than you described. Trust me.


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Talking of a specific geographical area, Ontario and Canada in general are not Linux hotbeds mainly due to the volume of American Micro$oft and Apple advertising inundating the country. Linux for all the benefits and ease of use is mainly a University student OS.. While visiting the local university with my son, pre-enrollment, Apple had a booth set up touting their hardware and software. When asked if Linux could be placed on their laptops and desktops, the salesman jumped right in and touted the benefits of putting the OS on their equipment.. course their equipment was 2.5 times the cost of a PC box... But Linux is recognized by the "Big Boys" (equipment), it's just a matter of getting the word out to the masses. While Europe has LUGS in almost every major city, other than Toronto, Ottawa, and Kitchener I know of no other LUGS. We are not getting the word out that there is an alternative.

As for Distros, each Linux user has their favourite OS and Windows Manager. I personally prefer KDE and for an OS, OpenSuSE. But if I can get 2 people to start using Linux and they start get 2.. so on and so on.

A simple solution for getting Linux to the masses. When you burn a new version's iso, burn a few more copies (preferably Live CD's/DVD's) and give them out to people.. if they get their hands on a physical disk, they might look at it and be converted.


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That is true. I have been in many cases around my university where people are "surprised" because I have an OS inside a jump-drive, another OS inside a CD and yet another OS in an old Mp3 player I formatted. When they start talking about "what application does this?" I tell them that this is not Windows, where VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING is done by external apps. Here every little app is tightly connected to the OS (all distributions tweak and patch the code for their specific kernel, etc.) and its resources can be shared with other apps when they are from the same distribution. I never mention Windows specifically, I talk Linux for its merits. When they talk about switching, a LiveCD surely comes in handy: I also tell them it's a whole new world of computing, that it's not Windows at all, and that I sincerely hope they try it a lot. If they do change, I make sure they dual-boot, not wipe everything out.


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