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Why do you favour KDE applications?


Posted by Yaba on Apr 7 2008
Consistent Look8%8%8% 8%
Consistent Feel9%9%9% 9%
DCOP support2%2%2% 2%
Configurability of Toolbars, Notifications, Shortcuts...18%18%18% 18%
Integration into the rest of KDE35%35%35% 35%
I do not favour KDE applications. I take the best, regardless of toolkit23%23%23% 23%
I do not favour KDE applications. Favour others2%2%2% 2%
Other reasons2%2%2% 2%
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 dcop

 
 by AlexeyK on: Apr 8 2008
 
Score 50%

There are many of comfortable KDE apps, as qt as gtk etc. But simplicity and power of dcop is really what I like in the KDE.


Alexey Kouznetsov
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 Re: dcop

 
 by xylo on: Apr 13 2008
 
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Same for me. DCOP and DBus are a must-do. I'm very surprised that only 2% voted for "DCOP support".

But OK, the integration in the rest of KDE is also important. I like the homogeneous configuration of shortcuts, notification events and the use of KURLs in every KDE application.


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 Re: Re: dcop

 
 by cinan on: Apr 13 2008
 
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Because some people don't understand what DCOP is... like me - can you explain to me, what is dcop? Thx


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 Re: Re: Re: dcop

 
 by Yaba on: Apr 13 2008
 
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Using dcop you can control many aspects of KDE programs from other programs or even the shell.

For example run

dcop amarok player play

while amarok is running and amarok will start to play. Using kdcop you can browse and try all provided functions or currently running programs.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: dcop

 
 by cinan on: Apr 16 2008
 
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Cool! one of the best things I've ever found in KDE. DCOP rulez hehe


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 KDE

 
 by Fri13 on: Apr 8 2008
 
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I use KDE because KDE apps allow configuration (great amount of options!), they use same themes as all others KDE apps (looks great) and Integration to rest KDE is Great! (Allows drag'n'drop files to other applications etc).

This is one reason why I dont use ManDVD or Manslide applications because they dont follow KDE themes and UI, are impossible to configurate and integration to KDE is almost none.
Same goes for any other Qt application because there just isn't that intuitive power what REAL KDE application gives to user!


KDE is made for users by users....
What can you give back to others?

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 Re: KDE

 
 by BorgQueen on: Apr 10 2008
 
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I agree completely. Intelligence merged with simplicity, without sacrifice. That's KDE.


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 favor of kde

 
 by EDWARD0S on: Apr 10 2008
 
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i like it regardless simply cause it was the first experience i had with linux fedora 7 kde 3.5 and i am looking forward to the kde 4 release for fedora 8. its in may. i think on the 15th. im not sure.


Linux, surpass the best. Leave it to the rest.
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 All of this

 
 by ilj on: Apr 10 2008
 
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Consistent Look
Consistent Feel
DCOP support
Configurability of Toolbars
Notifications, Shortcuts...
Integration into the rest of KDE

Voted for "Integration into the rest of KDE" meaning the list above.


Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

~ Henry Spencer

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 Consistent look

 
 by lucher on: Apr 10 2008
 
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Though I love KDE, personally, I believe "consistent look" is the part where KDE is failing at most.

Apps do use the same icons, the same style, the same icone effects, colors, etc.

But every author has his individual feeling of "asthetics" and screen arrangement. And in this point, it does not really fit together. Gnome and MacOS are far ahead in this regard.

Though: I believe, it would be -technically seen- a very simple way to go for KDE (compared with the rest of the UIs)...


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 Re: Consistent look

 
 by ilj on: Apr 12 2008
 
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> But every author has his individual feeling of "asthetics" and screen arrangement. And in this point, it does not really fit together. Gnome and MacOS are far ahead in this regard.

Seconded. I hate when some people come up with utterly ugly "innovative" designs.


Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

~ Henry Spencer

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 Re: Re: Consistent l

 
 by tisource on: Apr 15 2008
 
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I don't see that as a problem. If you restrict UI design too much, you restrict the artistic design of the programmer or developer.

Personally, I dislike GNOME for those reasons (and for other reasons). Not every app has the same purpose, and one UI design, which works for one app, may not work for another app.

I think visual styles, open/save boxes, etc between DEs (KDE/GNOME) should be a higher priority than UI consistency.

In other words, I want KDE open/save dialogs in OpenOffice.org, the GIMP, Firefox, Adobe Acrobat, etc.... the Portland project has been slow to address this.


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 Re: Re: Re: Consiste

 
 by ilj on: Apr 15 2008
 
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Well, if you look at this as a party you might see that some guests are dressed in tuxedos, others wear chucks and torn jeans and there are also totally sloppy teen-agers wearing kids clothes.

Unless it's all-ages party that's alright but if you ask UI designers if there's any reason why a consistent look should be maintained they will most likely tell you that there's a very important reason for that.

Inconsistent look of UI is like a book each page of which is printed in different type and size of font. One page is 12pt normal weight Times New Roman, the other is 15 italic Helvetica, the next is 24 bold ALL CAPITALS Black Arial and so on.

Would you enjoy reading such a book? In all honesty, I would not.


Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

~ Henry Spencer

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Consiste

 
 by Yaba on: Apr 15 2008
 
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Can you name a few KDE apps that match your comparisons? I do not know any KDE application that has such huge differences.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

 
 by ilj on: Apr 15 2008
 
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VIVIA would be one of the best examples, unfortunately.

Kbfx configuration tool is in the same category.

Luckily there are only a few KDE applications like that.


Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.

~ Henry Spencer

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

 
 by Ekardnam on: Apr 17 2008
 
Score 50%

What do you feel about Amarok (both 1.4 and 2)?



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

 
 by lucher on: Apr 23 2008
 
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(Reply to ekardnam):

Yes, Amarok is definitely one of those apps. Among other remarks on Amarok, I simply do not understand why they implement their own sidebar (which seems to be hardly themeable) instead of improving the existing sidebar widget. I also reckon Okular in KDE4 with its sidebar as such an inconsistency. It looks and feels like Outlook95 and MSOffice95 with its new sidebar that was favoured over QToolBox.



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 Re: Re: Re: Consistent l

 
 by lucher on: Apr 23 2008
 
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I believe that there is UI design and UI design. And I agree, I do not like GNOME due to its static concept.

Maybe I should give some examples:

o Some apps use 12px margins between dialog borders and text, some 6, some 30. Some apps nest more than 3 groupboxes into each other, some try to reduce the level of nesting and the number of used frames. Some dialogs have their buttons layed out horizontally, some vertically (even if the overall layout is the same). Some apps vertically align checkboxes at the text, others use the checkbox itself as vertical alignment anchor.

o Many apps in KDE now have "search lines". Some have them in the toolbar (system settings), some have them in terms of a temporary widget on the bottom (konqui, kwrite). Though the function is always the same...

o Many apps have info boxes. Dolphin has its file info pane on the right, Amarok 1.x on the left within tabs (oh gosh!), I recently have seen such a box at the bottom.

o Some apps use their own widget sets which are not supported by most widget styles. This is, unfortunately, Koffice with lots of individual toolbuttons (Color chosers, for example) that look weird in many modern styles. Other apps still use unstyled sunken frames (I even saw one in KDE4 - but I forgot where exactly, I will tell as soon as I find it again)

o And then there are so many visual glitches. For example, does anyone notice that the Google searchbar in Konqui4 is 1 pixel smaller in height compared with the address bar? I find this very annoying...

o tear-offs. There simply is no rule. Many new developers coming from Windows do not know about them and sometimes it is not possible (for example if there are QCustoMenuItems in a menu). There are only little applications left using them. But then one should be consequent. Please remove the option in system settings as well, saying "style -> enable effects -> enable tear offs"


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 Other

 
 by AMO88 on: Apr 13 2008
 
Score 50%

Voted other because I favor KDE apps for reasons 1-5.


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