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How do you like KDE 4.2?


Posted by Yaba on Jan 28 2009
Better than KDE 3.515%15%15% 15%
A huge improvement over 4.120%20%20% 20%
Finally a usable release11%11%11% 11%
KDE is back!11%11%11% 11%
I am still missing some things8%8%8% 8%
Nice, but I won't switch back from Gnome yet (Hi Linus!)4%4%4% 4%
Still some bugs7%7%7% 7%
Major bugs - can't use it3%3%3% 3%
Simply don't like it. KDE has lost me4%4%4% 4%
Still stuck with KDE 3.59%9%9% 9%
Haven't tried it yet7%7%7% 7%
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 KDE 4.2

 
 by d3f3nd3r on: Feb 9 2009
 
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I'll admit it I love KDE and have been waiting to put 4.2 on my desktop so much that I have blown away my usually stable PCLinux OS, replaced it with Mandriva 2009. When 4.2 was released I was sure Mandriva would follow up quickly with 4.2 packages, I was wrong. So never having tried any of the "buntu's" I d/l'ed Kubuntu Jaunty Jackalope alpha 4 and put it on my laptop.

Now I'll give all the credit to the KDE team for what is a huge, huge improvement over 4.1

It has been for the most part very stable, I haven't come across any show stoppers, yet.

Granted this is an alpha release and a couple of the subsystems have crashed Nepomuk and solid is not running. But I don't have much interest in Nepomuk right now and ALSA still works so I have sound.

That being said, I can't really see how Ubuntu got to be so huge? I don;t see and value added from that camp.

As soon as PCLinux OS supports KDE 4.2 I'll be going back home. But probably jump Kubuntu as soon as possible when Mandriva updates to 4.2

On a final note, 4.2 is visually very stunning, responsive and everything so far works without incident. But YMMV depending upon hardware.


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 Re: KDE 4.2

 
 by Fri13 on: Feb 9 2009
 
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Well... there is KDE 4.2 packages available for 2009. http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3882

I use Cooker where I was few days behind the developers version and I have enjoyed the ride of the KDE 4.1.x development towards 4.2.x

I was planning to try KDE 4.2 on other OS's than Linux, like on the FreeBSD. I have now tested it on few other Linux OS distributions and come to conclusion, 4.2 is what can be given to normal user, unless distribution is kubuntu...


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 Re: Re: KDE 4.2

 
 by d3f3nd3r on: Feb 9 2009
 
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I had already tried to use the packages that are available through the developer link you posted but the updates would stall mid way through and hose my system every time.


Yes I tried different mirrors, and updated the list each time but so far no luck.

But thanks for the input any help is better than none, eh?


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 Switched to KDE4

 
 by bitcrazy on: Feb 12 2009
 
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Okay, I've done it. Switched to KDE4 today and deinstalled all of KDE3, but not amarok, kaffeine and k3b.
-NetworkManager-kde4 doesn't work. Can't get any connection on WLAN. (disabled)
-nepomuk doesn't stop indexing, but uses about 99% CPU. (no showstopper, not needed)
-servicemenus must be changed
-hdaps applet works ;-)
-amarok4 works, but collection is messed up.
-missing some apps, but most time I'm on console.
As far as I can see, it runs stable.
More to come.

Greetings
m0nk


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 Re: Switched to KDE4

 
 by d3f3nd3r on: Feb 13 2009
 
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Just off the top of my head, have you tried to disable Nepomuk in Kcontrol? I believe there is an option in there for it.


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 Re: Re: Switched to KDE4

 
 by bitcrazy on: Feb 13 2009
 
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Sooooooo, day two in the valley of pain:
- amarok 1.4 doesn't work anymore, mediactl is gone.
- amarok2 doesn't import all artists/albums whatsoever and refuses to play (or not). Submits tracks (or not) to last.fm. Various artists still a mess. Thank god I've goggle mediaplayer as fallback
- dolphin doesn't use kparts, but always opens gwenview/okular (yes I've set iamge/* to embed)
- network still doesn't work, when controlled by NetworkManager. Applet crashes. (THAT IS A SHOWSTOPPER)
- kdissert replaced with semantik (to report something positive)
- still can't see what are the advantages of akonadi.
- and of course I've turned nepomuk off. (Even if it's not what it's supposed to be)

Enough for today
m0nk




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 Re: Re: Re: Switched to KDE4

 
 by d3f3nd3r on: Feb 13 2009
 
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Hey brother I feel your pain.

A lot of this is on the shoulders of the dev's for the distros.

I have had some very good experiences using 4.2 and some bad ones.

OpenSuse has got the desktop right and the underlying technologies seem to work at least for me, but I can't get my wireless to work.

Mandriva has got the desktop right and all my hardware works, but they still haven't put out 4.2 packages in the main repositories.

Fedora is a whole nother story for me, the desktop is slow down to a crawl, and their are issues with how KDE was implemented.

Right now I'm using Mint, although under Gnome cause I'm waiting for them to release KDE 4.2, but I have a feeling when they do it will shine.

Which leaves me to believe that at the heart of it KDE is pretty stable at this point but its how the distros incorporate these technologies into their particular offerings.

Take your time and don't give up, I'm sure you'll find something that works for you. :)


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 Re: Re: Re: Switched to KDE4

 
 by ZombieBear on: Feb 22 2009
 
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Dolphin will not embed kparts. It wass planned that way.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Switched to KDE4

 
 by fyarball on: Mar 1 2009
 
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You can still use Konqueror as a file manager, KParts works there.


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 Re: Switched to KDE4

 
 by kaleissin on: Feb 22 2009
 
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NetworkManager sucks (especially for more complex networks), use Wicd.


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 Tried It Thrice

 
 by mngrif on: Feb 16 2009
 
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I just spent the weekend hosing my workstation by trying out the various distros providing 4.2 packages. No data lost or anything, but absolutely none of them worked. These are all distributions I'm very well familiar with and are known to work well on this hardware, too. What I tried:

Kubuntu 8.10
Debian Unstable
Debian Testing + Unstable Backports
And some livecd that failed horribly..

I ended up putting Debian Testing on it again for good. I started this forray with Linux Mint 5 and needed an excuse to update :)

I'll just wait until it's in the mainstream repos before trying again. What little I got to use of it was very impressive!


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 ...

 
 by nknknk on: Feb 18 2009
 
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kde4 is, simply, too heavy for my computer


maybe you should add this option,
in the kde4 votes...


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 Unstable?

 
 by petersohn on: Feb 18 2009
 
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What I find strange is that 4.2 is less stable than 4.2 RC1. At least on my Ubuntu it is.

Another thing, that it eats up much more resources than it needs to. Come on, more than 10% CPU usage when I do nothing, 50% when desktop effects are enabled?

So I just use good ol' GNOME. However, I still use my favourite KDE programs like Kate, Krusader and Kopete.

KDE 4.2 is a huge improvement from 4.1, but still a fallback from 3.5.


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 There's no pleasing everyone..

 
 by mythus on: Feb 21 2009
 
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Greetings,

Some are going to hate KDE 4 no matter what, for what ever reasons. And some are going to experience bad problems with kde4.2.

However I do not expect that to be the norm. 4.2 has been getting very high raves out there, and for me it now surpasses 3.5. On my 4.2 desktop using the highly configurable plasma panels I have two panels on the right side that auto hide (one on top, one on bottom) with the top having play wolf and the bottom having yawp. I have an auto hiding panel on the left side with my desktop folders, and an auto hiding panel on the bottom as my app docker. The top is graced with a constantly present panel for my lancelot launcher, multi-rowed task bar, systray with auto hiding, pager, and digital clock. These are all completely transparent thanks to the bare naked plasma theme so that my slide show desktop art can shine through. Now the effect is when I am say using Konqueror to browse the web in full screen I can with a simple wiggle of my mouse in any direction of the desktop bring out the panel with the app i want to see.. say to see the weather for example, and don't have to go back to desktop to see Liquid Weather as i did in 3.5.

Now the reason I described all of that is because for me 4.2 is wonderful. I have been able to make the desktop work how I want it to work and not the other way around. I sure as heck couldn't have done the same things and get the same look in 3.5, and I have tried.

Now some people are experiencing problems with their 4.2 and immediately say it must be kde 4.2 itself. This is folly. Most of the problems comes from faulty use of the distribution's repo of 4.2 or faulty implementation of 4.2 by the distro, and not 4.2 itself. Case in point, on mine (running kubuntu 8.10 btw) knetwork-manager works fine. I get good wireless and wired connection. My wife is running the same (kubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2) on her desktop and depends on wireless, and knetwork manager works for her. However on her laptop which is running sabayon, I had to replace knetwork manager with Wicd for her to have wireless. So if you are having trouble with wireless, perhaps you should try Wicd. On my desktop I occasionally get ark crashes, but neopunk is running fine and so are everything else. My wife's desktop is have the disappearing font issue, but only for pop-up notification windows, and everything else is working fine. I had to disable neopunk on her laptop. I have full fledge desktop effect on my desktop, they don't work on my wife's desktop (but her desktop is considerably older... ) yet they work fine on her laptop.

Now for some people they may never get a perfect working KDE 4.2 experience, despite the distro they try, and in some cases (like with kubuntu) you have to do a little work at first to iron out some of the kinks in their use of 4.2, or like in sabayon replace some apps (knetworkmanager with wicd). One distro does this by default (the Arch Linux Chakra project). I have also been hearing problems elsewhere with knetworkmanager, but I haven't experienced them on my desktop. But as I stated at the very beginning of this long comment, I do not think it is KDE 4.2's fault, I think the problems lie elsewhere. As for me, 4.2 is all I could have ever asked for, and more. For me, it does finally surpass 3.5.

Thanks for your time...


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 Re: There's no pleasing everyone..

 
 by bitcrazy on: Feb 27 2009
 
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So you're always talking about knetworkmanager, but this is a 3.5 app. In KDE4 you only have an applet. And all the desktop blink-blink doesn't help, if you can't unlock your screen after suspend or the screensaver comes up.
Konqueror/amarok doesn't register (inotify?) the external hdd and yes it appears in the applet.
The cursor-theme changes on dragging, while the icon theme stays oxygen, even if you select another.
Powerdevil manages the power of the screen, so why do I need the powermanagement of the screen option?(should be greyed out, if powerdevil is active).
And this annoying icon without function, which appears on every start/after every crash in the panel drives me crazy.
All these things can depend from the distribution I'm using (openSUSE 11.1), but I don't think so.
Btw. I'm talking about a KDE3 free desktop with no KDE3 libs nor apps. Try this and report.

Greetings from purgatory
m0nk


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