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What's the best system for KDE?


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RedHat Linux12%12%12% 12%
SuSE Linux30%30%30% 30%
Mandrake Linux31%31%31% 31%
Debian Linux16%16%16% 16%
FreeBSD6%6%6% 6%
Other6%6%6% 6%
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 Red Hat

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 18 2001
 
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is definitively the best Linux distro!


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 hmm

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 18 2001
 
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ohh.. that was constructive arguments :)

although you should know debian is the best - binary packages are object pre-linked and a bit more split up... and of course upgradings get alot easier with apt-get :)


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 debian

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 14 2001
 
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I like debian becouse of the good packaging system. But man its out dated.. Mandrake is the way to go if u want the good new tasty suff..


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 Not quite

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 23 2001
 
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Since when was APT get Debian specific? I grab all the latest rpms from Freshrpms.net using APT and it works quite fine. Sicne RPM is the standard install method, I'm more than happy with it.


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 Dump all but SuSE

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 19 2001
 
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Why don't you see the poll results and buy your SuSE copy today?.
Oh i'll see, you want to spend all your time configuring the system.


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 do your homework lad

 
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no, that's why I run debian - configure it once and only once... in difference to systems like SuSE/RH/Mandrake/slack debian get upgraded dynamically and on the fly - no re-installations and dist upgrades through installationprograms etc.

Btw all debian dists are compatible, when they're not apt fetches needed packages for compatiblity - try mixing SuSE dists and you'll know what a mess it is


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 ah ah

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 20 2001
 
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do you know urpmi ??
it the same as aptget but
for rpm on mandrake...


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 no it's not...

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 20 2001
 
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try ie "urpmi dist-upgrade" hmm... no equivalent here...


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 debian for KDE?

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 21 2001
 
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wow... That's a feature you get to use with debian every two years or so.
Debian stable does not even come with KDE, so how can it be the best distro for using KDE?


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 stable you said ?

 
 by manu on: Nov 21 2001
 
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you stupid... :)
Testing should be ok.
Try it, keep it. :)



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 Re: 8 - 8.1

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 22 2001
 
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Oh, so you need to either buy a CD or burn it on CD first?
In debian I don't even have to think about redirecting apt - it gets the newest automatically without any real dist upgrades - thats what I like

And IF you go by stable dists it's definately more easy to do the upgrades than getting a CD and doing all those commands



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 ah ah

 
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normal
it is not -dist-upgrade but
urpmi --auto-select


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 which isn't the same

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 21 2001
 
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...you can't ie upgrade 8.0 to 8.1 completely this way



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 upgrade 8 to 8.1

 
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to upgrade mdk 8.0 to 8.1

mount /mnt/cdrom
urpmi.removemedia -a
urpmi.addmedia cdrom removable_cdrom://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS/ with ../base/hdlist.cz

then urpmi --auto-select

try before to speak



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 re: upgrade 8 to....

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 22 2001
 
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bet you've never tried debian since you miss the point and don't really see the difference...



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 urpmi can do dist-up

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 27 2001
 
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Yes there is, only it's a tad more difficult -
urpmi.addmedia for the new distro version's FTP directory, and urpmi --auto-select


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 hmmm

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 29 2001
 
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I think that mandrake's distro does what ever it wants whenever it wants...you should check out better debian!!


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 Maybe, but....

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 26 2001
 
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Yes, I want to try SuSE.
But it doesn't support Chinese!


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 what ? SuSE ? !!!

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 1 2001
 
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Suse is the worst distro. The tools are not so smart to config the whole system, many things you must do by hand despite that "perfect" tool called Yast. btw. the suseconfig & modules.conf with size of 18kB and the rc.config makes me crazy. the package dependencies are wonderfull too... you must install things you'll never use.


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 LDD, ever hear of it

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 8 2001
 
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Ever run ldd ?


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 affirmative

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 18 2001
 
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I've seen it all.. SuSe has nothing to offer for someone who wants _real_ control.. (messing in /etc fe)


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 SuSE is #1

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 19 2001
 
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Use rpm -ivh --nodeps --force if you have a problem with so called package dependencies. Then you can have the smallest minimal install, and not be bothered by the (WONDERFUL) work of the (KIND) people who contribute to (TAKERS) like you. If you knew anything you would have thought of this, that way you dont get the extra (FREE) things that are included that people did on their (OWN) time for the (UNIX) society, that which (YOU) take for granted. Another obtuse generalism, that which has no real value except blind criticism


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 Suse Linux

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 3 2001
 
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I cant make up my mind between SuSe and Mandrake, so I use both. I dont like Debian, too hard to install for a beginner like me.


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 SuSE--memory leaks

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 7 2001
 
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SuSE is good. In fact, it's great, but with SuSE 7.1 and nViDIA drivers I had memory leaks in the X windows system. I have looked online and found other people with the same problem, so i got some burned redhat 7.2 cds from work.

No more leaks.

Damn, I need some coffee...


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 SuSE

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 29 2001
 
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Take a look at what you are saying... Those drivers are from who ?


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 Read the poll again!

 
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It said which one is the nest for KDE. I've used RedHat for 3 years, and SuSE for 3 months, but I can tell SuSE is much better suited for KDE. Suse is built around KDE, with Gnome as a minor extra-feature.

And about distros, SuSE is better than RedHat... I just love SuSE Linux Proffesional 7.3, RedHat may be good, but not as good as SuSE.

btw. Debian isn't the best for KDE either, and it didn't even install on my machine..


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 "deb didn't install"

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 19 2001
 
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...well, it's the same os so the correct sentence would be "...and I didn't manage to install debian on my box..."

and yes, debian may not be as easy to install as many others (although at least debians installation program gives ME the best flexibility and hasn't crashed on me yet)

but otoh when you get it set up and running you'll never look back again (and btw - you won't need to reinstall debian ever)


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 OT: correction

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 20 2001
 
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Say rather: "I was not able to install Kde in my machine". Which is not so difficult, btw.
All dists are fine, but imho debian is better.
But, this was not a discussion about what the best distro is, or was it?


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 Well...

 
 by jci on: Dec 10 2001
 
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I have tested Red Hat for 2 years, i like it working with KDE, but I know that SuSe somehow better.
Well, anyway, if i have to buy a Linux distribution, I'll get it for free. But the money spent in Suse will be nicely spent =)

A poll hard to understand, too much 'polemica'...=)

greetz!
--jc


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 It depends ...

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 27 2001
 
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... remember, it allways depends on
- where you're living... here in the german speaking part of europe it's shurely SuSE
- what you want to do (i.e. IBM S/390)
- and "where you want to go today" (uuurrgghhh!! ;-)) )


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 SuSE != all germans

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 11 2001
 
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Hi there...

I used to work with SuSE Linux at work, using SuSE as server OS.

Not as a desktop OS.

SuSE is - IMHO - expensive, not really so easy as it's told everytime and I don't have the money to affort every new SuSE version.

So I went to linuxiso.org got to mandrake-linux.com an right now I'm using Mandrake 8.1 on my private PC.

I got ADSL, so it's no problem to get the isos.
Of couse I've got a flatrate, so it isn't expensive at all.

CU a german Linux "Noob" ;o)


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 Suse

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 22 2001
 
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Off corse It depend.

I choice Suse after I tested redhat , caldera, why ?

because it is very simple to configure with yast and because in 1998 no american distrib recoginize isdn device as Suse !

If I want to use Linux in a novell network i will use Caldera ..


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 Caldera Open Linux

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 28 2001
 
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For me Open Linux Kicks A$$!!!!

Easy to use, easy to install ;)


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 Indeed RedHat!!!

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 28 2001
 
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Now KDE 2.2 is super fast on it. I had very bad experiences with Mandrake though it gets the latest and the greatest but it's very crash prone. many a times reiserfs got crashed.

but on RH 7.1 i have no complains. Though SuSE is great, but it has more german.


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 More German?

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 29 2001
 
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How do you mean more German? More German what? Sausage? Brockwurst? Saurkraut? Would be nice to get a free sausage, but its probably not practical :).

C'mon if you are going to say its too German please say why.

Matt


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 No way man... No way

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 1 2001
 
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I'm a network engineer of over
22 years, I think RedHat is a piece of crap... SuSE kicks arse!
Hands down...
www.brennick.com
(Happily powered by SuSE)


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 SUSE

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 8 2001
 
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LEAD DOG!
LOL - I agwee


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 FreeBSD is not dead.

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 3 2001
 
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Please see the post at:
http://freebsd.kde.org


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 looks great

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 6 2001
 
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i use bsd also


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 RH and others..

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 4 2001
 
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"RedHat likes living on the bleeding edge, but leaves the bleeding up to you"
(quoted from somebody on the lfs-discuss mailinglist)

I got nothing more to say about RH..


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 The system

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 20 2001
 
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The best Linux distribution, all the best hackers say: Slackware


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 well....

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 20 2001
 
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personally, i think MY distro is best.


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 of course ...

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 22 2001
 
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no comment ...


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 Redhat

 
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ONLY !


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 Slackware

 
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KDE's not bad on Debian -- anymore -- and I appreciate Mandrake's attempts at integrating everything together, but I recently switched back to using Slack. The nice thing is that, if there are problems with Patrick/whoever's packages, you can always build it yourself--and there's no chance of breaking package dependencies. ;-)


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 ACK!

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 20 2001
 
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You are absolutelly right! :)


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 Oh yeah!!!

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 23 2001
 
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Slackware's the one!


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 Slackware

 
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all that can be said is fucking a


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 Slackware for life!

 
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Yes, I do like compiling my own programs... let's me choose just what options exactly I get. Of all the distros I've tried, it's the one that's always given me the least amount of trouble/most enjoyment with KDE.


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 Ball and Chain

 
 by anonymous on: Dec 8 2001
 
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Ever feel like you have a ball and chain tied to your neck ?


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 slumpware

 
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slumpware for chumps


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 compiling packages

 
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I enjoy compiling my own packages as well. I compile all mine from source and build RPM's out of them so that I can then share them across the other desktop's I manage.
Oh, and I'm using SuSE to do all this. The only other distro I would consider is Slackware which is what I migrated from.


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 Debian

 
 by anonymous on: Nov 18 2001
 
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DEBIAN ROXX


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 Re:

 
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Not for me until it supports kernel 2.4 out-of-the-box.


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 2.4

 
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upgrade to woody, it supports 2.4 kernels. And there are unofficial packages for potato which allow it to use a 2.4 kernel.


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 Stability

 
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Kernel 2.4 wasn't stable enough for Debian until recently. Juggling with different VM systems isn't really what Debian users want.

I'm still using 2.2.19 on a number of servers. 2.4.15pre1 is the first that survived my crash tests.

Debian isn't your 'wow, new spiffy features, let's put it into stable' distro. They wait, and it usually makes sense. If you don't like it, you can always roll your own.


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 KDE ad Debian

 
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Debian and the sid distro roxx for me with 2.4 kernel and all the goodies, I am just loving it.

With the ease of updating and selecting, Debian can show other distros what it's all about. I love testing all the new creations that the developers have come up with. (was even with evolution when it was only .12 or some ting) KDE running with Debian has been bulletproof for me, I cant say the same for gnome.


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 Wow

 
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Wow...

really non-biased and thought provoking arguments here.

Red Hat and Mandrake f0x0r so much stuff up its silly.

Debian is nice but when people change the package listing and then forget to actually upload the proper perl package and thus b0rk3n your apt setup...

Slackware is nice, but hunting down deps all over the earth and then finding out that the first dep you installed is one revision too old..

*BSD is excellent, but waiting for everything to compile... oi!


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 Yeah right.

 
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Debian is nice but when people change the package listing and then forget to actually upload the proper perl package and thus b0rk3n your apt setup...

That's why it is called UNSTABLE or TESTING. These things don't happen if you use stable, and if you don't want stable, then you must know what to expect, or you should perhaps not use it.


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 Um..

 
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and Debian -STABLE still uses a kernel 2.2x

STABLE is stable, yes, but is so pathetically old and outdated.


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 I'd have to go with.

 
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... Debian


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 BSD or Slackware

 
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The new crop of Linux distros just infuriates me. Mandrake in particular - all the configuration utilities seem to want to edit different files. IE:- you've got your network set up, and you run the SMB server wizard. It then runs another wizard as it says your network isn't set up! And then you have Linuxconf stomping all over things in addition to the Mandrake setup utils - absolute chaos.

Slackware is nice and neat, one config file for each thing - and FreeBSD is much the same. Although at a push, I'd choose BSD over Slackware down to the Ports system, and the Kernel compilation - much better than Linux IMHO. And the KDE setup in the latest releases of FreeBSD is a nice "KDE" install, unlike the "cusomtised" KDE installs offered by Mandrake et al. I mean, what IS going on with Mandrakes' packaging ? Stuff in weird places, wonky menu system with a butt-ugly GTK frontend..... eeurgh.

Oh, and for those who don't like waiting for stuff to compile, FreeBSD and Slackware do have binary package management systems as well....

Give 'em a try, both make fantastic KDE systems.


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 'course...

 
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The FreeBSD kernel is about 1000% more stable than Linux anyday. .. then there's the better memory management, non-fluidness of system distributions, etc. I went to FreeBSD in '98 and haven't looked back since. ;) -dT-


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 used to be true...

 
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but today I think theyu're pretty equal performance-wise and linux has always been developed more aggressively so I guess it'll outperform FBSD soon... - FBSD 5 vs Linux 2.6 will be very interesting :)


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 agreed

 
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Linux of 2-3 years ago bears little resemblance, performance-wise, to Linux of today.

Who recently posted benchmarks comparing fBSD and Linux--was it Moshe Bar? They're pretty close, performance-wise, nowadays. Stability-wise, though...I hate to say it, but while, yeah, BSDers are quick to point out AltaVista, I gotta point out that Google's a Linux shop. ;-)

About a month ago I was running 4.4-RELEASE (or whatever the heck it was) and switched back to Slack for my own reasons. I've got to say that I haven't regretted it yet. :-)


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 well....

 
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I installed my Slackware 7.0 now almost two years ago and well, I can't remember that it ever crashed, really.
Two or three times X crashed in some strange way, but that's definitely all.

Alex


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 kdeinit.core

 
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150 meg kdeinit.core file ? whats that about, thats pretty stable..


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 suse @ ~

 
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i have been using suse linux for three years, BUT this thing has never changed:
if you create a new users he usually has loads of config files in his ~ (even of rpms not installed) - i think about >=1 mb.


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